Can we please delay Savage?

[HyoMinPark]

So it's all about the loot now? To get it as fast as the content drops?

No. It’s about not arbitrarily losing 2~3 days of raid—which would happen if you released Savage on a Thursday or Friday after a x.2 or x.4 patch. The loot is secondary, really. What matters most for those who want Week 1 clears is getting as much prog in as possible. Not loot drops.

I only mentioned loot because it ties in with the weekly resets. But feel free to read more into my post than what I actually said.

Yeah, let's cater even more to raiders.

I mean, you’d still get all of your content on time. This is a suggestion that affects only raiders—which, based on your comment, you don’t seem to be one. So why so upset?

[Valorak]

There's a few trolls that are sour and bitter here that are against it. If you're against this, then you're just trolling, or bitter for no reason. There's literally positively absolutely no reason in delaying savage for a week.

You can delay tomes being dropped and awarded for a week and put it in a little hotfix or minipatch for content, you'd just get the older tomes in the meantime, which would still be valuable to farm as they are needed for tome mats to make stuff, so people would still have a reason to run the content as is.

The normal mode drops could stay as they are, there's no issue and you'd just have two pieces of 480 or what have you... you'd still be behind if you didn't have crafted and you'd have to spam normal modes week 2, the first week of savage, to even have that. It'd be for the benefit of crafters to make pots and food and gear. There's literally no reason NOT to do this. It gives smaller statics without DEDICATED crafters the chance to prepare.

Again, you're just a troll or a bitter angry old man/woman if you're against this. No reason not to.

I mean...

I appreciate the fact that people want to both enjoy the story and have time to prepare for Savage, and while I don't think it should be necessary, I do ultimately think that it would be advantageous to force a week-long delay.

That said, I don't think that it's fair to so readily discard the opinions of those that are ready to go on the first week. Not when this problem really could be resolved by people simply identifying what is most important to them and then self-delaying for a week. You're basically telling people that are ready on day one that they need to shut up and wait an extra week because you want to have your cake and eat it too.

[Aurelius2625]

Solution to this problem:
1: normal modes and new content, 1 week prior to savage, drop the old tomes (or increase the price of tome pieces to match the 1 week extra 450 tomes)
2: once savage drops, all new content drops the new tomes with a hotfix/patch.
3: 1 week's time to allow crafters and gatherers to gather/craft gear.
4: ANNOUNCE THE DAMN DATE OF SAVAGE LAUNCH. "You knew it was dropping". NO, we did NOT. We knew vaguely when, and for people with actual jobs and careers, we need to give ADVANCE notice of this to either request off, or use PTO, or what have you. No. It was TWO WEEKS notice, this is not enough time and the devs know darn well when they want to launch the content.

OR:

5: Separate the Raid story from the MSQ. Tying Eden in with the MSQ was the worst possible thing they could have done. This makes the people who want lore and the story, but also like to raid, forced thru the story. HW was separate from Alexander, coils had a bit more to do with the whole calamity thing, but the story was largely separate from the MSQ, as it was related to Garlemald, Gaius and the invasion of Eorzea with the Ultima Weapon with the primals, not Bahamut.

6: POST THE LIST OF MATERIALS NEEDED FOR CRAFTING IN ADVANCE - This would allow crafters the necessary time as well as gatherers to prepare for the recipes, as well as releasing how many tomes/scrips etc... are needed, this would allow people to prep everything needed BEFORE hand, and would allow savage to launch the same day as normal modes.

These options are MORE than reasonable and can be done.

[testname]

I would like that too,

Preparing mats, crafting, unlocking and not skipping cutscenes,

even if not one week, then maybe just 3 days v__v

[testname]

I mean...

You're basically telling people that are ready on day one that they need to shut up and wait an extra week because you want to have your cake and eat it too.

I was BiS long before 5.2, but new crafting gear is way better ( and You need crafting gear to enter e3s coz 480 min ilvl )

It's no possible to do all things at one day without sacrificing other things

[spf1200]

Why is is so important to start Savage day one? You have months to do this content. Don't blame SE because you decided to skip the story or overwork yourself self trying to craft the new gear quickly just so you can start raiding a few hours earlier.

[Andevom]

I'd even favor pushing it to *two* weeks, since this is already done during expansions. I know that's largely because of the amount of content in an expansion and a desire to not have players race through everything to focus just on that, but given there's always content released in X.X1 patches, why not just throw Savage in there?

[ShadowNyx3]

Why is is so important to start Savage day one? You have months to do this content. Don't blame SE because you decided to skip the story or overwork yourself self trying to craft the new gear quickly just so you can start raiding a few hours earlier.

Because attempting to clear the fights in the first week is fun for people who enjoy challenging themselves. The final fight is highly tuned for the limits of the gear you can have available during the first week, thus promoting higher level play before weeks of gearing bring the difficulty down significantly.

Delaying savage by one week affects no one and only raises the dilemma of when to release the weekly-capped tomestone.

[Valorak]

I was BiS long before 5.2, but new crafting gear is way better ( and You need crafting gear to enter e3s coz 480 min ilvl )

It's no possible to do all things at one day without sacrificing other things

Yeah I get that. I totally understand the desire for a delay.

It's just that in forcing a delay to make sure that a specific subset of players get everything that they want, they would be also creating frustrations for another subset of players. So is obtaining your optimal experience worth hurting their optimal experience?

I just think that people should be cognizant of that before they try to hand wave away arguments against this idea.

[EtherRose]

Snip.

No. They aren't going to release content based on your own personal schedule. Losing a day or two is perfectly fine. You won't lose progress because there will already be video guides up before you can blink so you'll know what the fight is about and how to handle it.