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    As someone who doesn't do Savage, I don't mind either way.

    As someone who sometimes watch people do Savage on streams, I do think it's nicer to see if Normal and Savage are released on the same day, whether or not the raid itself is delayed after a patch.
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    I agree.
    As a raider myself. I prefer if savage is delayed a week because it's very annoying to rush everything to get ready for savage.

    More so if you're broke like me and have to farm tomes to sell to crafters to even get the gear then food, pots.
    It's pretty stressful.
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    Honestly Sebazy's post says all of my own reasons for wanting this; even a day or two would be fine. It's not even necessarily about "taking your time" for me, it's about making sure everyone has full craft+pentamelds ready to go for the tier, something we very much can't prepare for beyond basics before the patch is dropped. Referencing Sebazy and I'll mention my own FC's worldprog group No Hit, they have almost an entire static's worth of players on hand just to craft them gear, food, and pots while they push as far into the tier as they can without them.

    My static very much lacks those kinds of resources, even if we wanted to world prog, and it did take some time away from our attempts to week one kill this tier.
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    100% agree with the idea of delaying Savage by one week. When Savage comes out at the start of the expac it's way less stressful, you've had 2 weeks to prep for it and you can wake up on patch day, unlock it and get started. Since I started raiding at the end of HW I've always found it kind of annoying that you only get this "prep" window as such once per expac. I don't see how anyone loses out with a one week delay on Savage being released. SE already likes to drip feed content at times and other times it almost feels like we get too much in one go.

    You had to make a choice on Tuesday whether you wanted to do story/Ruby Wep EX or Raid. If you moved Savage to a week later, everyone gets time to do everything without having to sacrifice anything.
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    Why so long? Then every have already a few 490 parts and the raid gets even easyer.
    A delay of 24h for the first week would be nice.
    So at day 1 you can do the normal raid and prepare stuff for savage and at day 2 you can do these nice little blind runs with your static or PF.
    Especially the PF raiders need to be in the first wave to get fast into the 2nd and 3rd fight to avoid a lot of casuals in the first one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Curisu View Post
    Why so long? Then every have already a few 490 parts and the raid gets even easyer.
    A delay of 24h for the first week would be nice.
    So at day 1 you can do the normal raid and prepare stuff for savage and at day 2 you can do these nice little blind runs with your static or PF.
    Especially the PF raiders need to be in the first wave to get fast into the 2nd and 3rd fight to avoid a lot of casuals in the first one.
    The delay of a week is suggested because of how reset and loot works. Delaying by a day or two—or even 24 hours—cuts into Week 1 prog, and makes it more likely groups going for a Week 1 kill don’t get it due to losing days. If they didn’t release Savage until a Thursday or Friday of the same week, then Week 1 proggers just lost 2~3 days of raid progression.
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    I understand the issue with World Racers but I can't figure out what you get for a week 1 over a week 2 or 3 clear (beside getting your mount earlier), especially if you actually don't have the proper time due work for it. Why do you still force yourself that much that it even ruins your actual game experience by skipping through the content and rush about it just to make it in time? "Because the content is more challenging in Week 1/2 then in 3?" Why is that? Because you have more Stones then? But wouldn't it be the same if Savage was delayed but not the Stones? And even if that would be true, does it make you feel bad as a player if you don't make it in week 1? Also, if you are all up to it, you can still go in there with minimum ilevel, refusing to use the Stones if that's all what makes it less challenging.
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    Last edited by Pepsi_Plunge; 02-24-2020 at 06:36 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepsi_Plunge View Post
    I understand the Issue with World Racers but I can't figure out what you get for a Week 1 clear, especially if you actually don't have the proper time due work for it. Why do you still force yourself that much that it even ruins your actual game experience by skipping through the content just to make it in time? "Because the content is more challenging in Week 1/2 then in 3?" Why is that? Because you have more Stones then? But wouldn't it be the same if Savage was delayed but not the Stones?

    As someone who is PFing, if you miss the first week, even the first day, you've lost any chance at all to at least try the fights blind and work the mechanics out. I didn't get to start raiding this week till Thursday and despite labelling the party as a blind learning, we had people put waymarks down and explain stuff within one pull. Even for statics, word gets around fast and hearing about strats or memes that have come from the fights can ultimately cause people to get spoiled on mechanics they wanted to experience and figure out.

    I don't think anyone particularly cares about the issue of extra tomes, one i490 piece will make hardly any difference and you'd have to cap before raid to get chest or legs which again, won't give you a huge advantage over just having penta melded crafted gear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irisdina_Wiloh View Post
    As someone who is PFing, if you miss the first week, even the first day, you've lost any chance at all to at least try the fights blind and work the mechanics out. I didn't get to start raiding this week till Thursday and despite labelling the party as a blind learning, we had people put waymarks down and explain stuff within one pull.
    How anything of this could be solved if Savage was postponed one week? It would be the same situation... just one week later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperZay View Post
    How anything of this could be solved if Savage was postponed one week? It would be the same situation... just one week later.
    Because as others have said, many people are too busy on the first day Savage comes out crafting, trying to rush through all the content after they finish work or have other commitments that stop them being able to enjoy all the content that comes out on day 1. If you only care about Savage raiding then sure, maybe it's not a big deal to skip the other things this game has to offer, but a lot of people play this game because it's Final Fantasy. They want to enjoy the story. By having Savage come out on the same day as a bunch of other things, you're forcing some people to make a choice that doesn't need to exist.

    Regarding spoilers for stuff, well yeah, I'm not saying spoilers aren't still gonna happen day 1, but the point is with Savage being on it's own release date, everyone has a chance to get stuck in sooner. The sooner everyone can start, the less they will get spoiled on things. When statics or PF raiders can't get started till a day or two later because other content/commitments, they get subjected to people who just want to explain all the mechanics without giving people a chance to enjoy it blind. People also might be less willing to spoil content when they don't feel like they're having to play catch up with the other groups/PF raiders who skipped all the other content to start straight away.
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