Quote Originally Posted by Lucy_Pyre View Post
Yeah, I think I can confidently say that I "know what I'm doing" more than the overwhelming vast majority of Warrior players out there, and I think that IR and IC are completely fine as is. Could some things potentially be tweaked to be better? Absolutely so. But at the end of the day the only real major "issue" that WAR currently has is just a slightly lower than desired DPS profile, something that could very easily be fixed with minor potency tweaks. Barring that the job doesn't really need anything else.
WAR needs skills, it needs changes. Potency will get a few people to jump on to play it due to it being "meta" but look at the tank numbers just in raiding. GNB, PLD, and DRK are fairly close in population of savage clears. WAR is down at the bottem, by a VAST amount, not even close to any of the other tanks and its damage is higher than DRK not considering party buffs. Its the same arguement people tried to make for DRKs in SB. DRKs in SB had a multiple issues, but thier damage was higher than PLD. So if DPS is truely the sole thing people care about, why wasn't DRK played more than PLDs?

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Because DRK was clunky still. WAR was only up top due to yes, its DPS was top but also it had the best self mitigation cools and had an important part of what? Dropping Tank Stance and creating a high buffer of hate at the start of the fight with 0 DPS loss unlike the other tank options AND Holmgang was 180 secs back then making many fights trival due to its cooldown.
There were MULTIPLE reasons why WAR was the go to tank in SB, not just its damage, it had more strengths than that.

Now? Holmgang is now 240 secs which has led to it being far less valued than any other tank due to the new TB timings (exception to Leviathan but that requires a DRK/WAR comp to fully cheese else its pointless to value Holmgang more than any other TB in that fight). Tank dancing is not a thing anymore and there is no care about hate management for tanks. So now what is WAR's strength? It has self healing... with the worst OT skill in the game and has good personal mitigation... buuuut all of the fights require both tanks active mitigation meaning that's a pointless strength since you most of the time will use NF over Raw to self heal cause you don't need the extra mitigation.
IR? Well DRK has that now and I don't think I need to point out how Titan can completely F you over during IR multiple times in that fight.

THAT is why WAR isn't played anymore on top of one of the most complained about Tanks kit wise with again 0 changes in ShB that changed/evolved how the job functions. Not only that but DRK which legit got a skill from WAR one of their two BIGGEST COMPLAINTS IS DELIRUM! (Other complaint is Living Dead debuff).