Thread: 5.0 WAR is a disappointment

OP said it was a disappointment, not that it's terrible. Terrible was War at Stormblood's launch. ShB war is disappointing or boring, but it's still okay imo.

And it is a bit of a disappointment isn't it? Recycled animations. In the case of Overpower and Mythril Tempest, the animations don't even feel like they belong together in a combo. Cone AOE comboing with a 360 AOE doesn't feel right. Nascent flash/Raw Intuition feels like Inner Beast with the mitigation and healing split into two actions.

There's annoying things like still having to prep single target combo to do our AOE combo. Personally, I kinda wish they ditched Storm's Eye buff in PVE like they did in PvP. Onslaught costing rage is also bad - actually, it downright feels awful and doesn't gel well with the FC for more Infuriate for more Inner Chaos mechanic. I wish Warriors had a second resource for stuff like Onslaught so that it doesn't compete with Rage which is our dps resource. Onslaught should just be free. Just do it. Half cooldown and potency on Upheaval if they wanna give wars a rage dump button. Or, I don't know, give warriors a new rage dump button instead of Onslaught. Upheaval's place in the warrior kit is also odd. It's just a button you hit every 30 secs. It really is kind of boring. I wish it had something else tied to it, like a dot or something.

Nascent Flash should also be useable without a target in PVP. Or at least increase the healing on Storm's Path to 150% or allow add some healing to Inner Chaos for PVP.

But these issues aside, I love everything else about Shadowbringers thus far. The questing and zone design are far superior than what we got in Storms blood. STory is also much more interesting.

I just want them to iron out some of clunkiness in War's gameplay, and I couldn't be happier with this xpac.

tbh I've gotten WAR to 76 and I'm done, the loss of heals from Inner Beast and Steel Cyclone means I'm dying way more now. I pull small, party says pull more, I pull more, healer cannot keep up and, with no HP back from Steel Cyclone, I die.

Nascent Flash doesn't make up for it, it's clunky to use so not really good for those big pulls.

Going to go back to PLD and see how that plays.

Originally Posted by Praesul

If you were doing things right before, you were mass pulling in Deliverance which meant no self heals anyway. Now you get the best of both worlds, if you can't utilize it right that's not the game's fault.

I did big pulls in Defiance, keep hate, Steel Cyclone to keep my own health at a good level. I rarely dropped into Deliverance, occasionally the odd boss when running with healers I knew and trusted.

Having raided as all three tanks in Stormblood and working on maxing them now, I think the major disappointment has less to do with WAR, and more to do with DRK and GNB being so new and flashy. PLD mains are complaining about their class being underwhelming even with new animations like Confietor, Atonment, and Prominence. Those two tanks were already in a good place so there wasn't really a need to change what they had, so they just gave them a bit extra.

EDIT: Also to say that Paladin has become more complex is actually hilarious. Instant cast Holy means you no longer need yo slide cast, so that minor bit of complexity is gone. Their rotation changed from 2x Royal Authority to Royal Authority + Atonement x3, and their casting phase turned from 5x Holy Spirit to 4x Holy Spirit + Confietor.