5.0 WAR is a disappointment

**Spune** · 07-11-2019 12:50 AM

Originally Posted by Nedkel

I dont mind the aoe combo i like nascent flash and new raw intuition and the thrill of battle, i do love that we could heal ourself and deal big damage at the same time.
I like infuriate mechanic, you could play with it around IR to make most out of it.
But one thing i was REALLY hoping for was just another and low CD oGCD to use in IR window and outside of it, just one... And we got none which is pretty disappointing. PLD got, DRK got, War did not.

My buttons hotbar did not changed much, instead i got less buttons to press here and there.

DRK got turned into WAR

**Nedkel** · 07-11-2019 01:39 AM

Originally Posted by Spune

DRK got turned into WAR

And Gunbreaker turned into DRK. xD

**TheForce** · 07-06-2019 04:07 AM

Originally Posted by Dio_Tiferet

Be happy it remained the same i'd do anything to get my Stormblood DRK back and it was the worst of the 3 tanks in terms of performance.

Oh my goodness, YES. This is exactly what I was thinking as I read this post. Shizz, I WISH they had just left my job the same.

**Lanze** · 07-06-2019 01:12 PM

Warrior is fine imo. But i do agree animations are lackluster/copy pasted. Bit sad about Raw intuition + Awareness combo tho! But Flash makes up for it. even as a Main tank ability. Insane heals if paired with inner release or Chaos.

**NyneSwordz** · 07-06-2019 01:58 PM

OP said it was a disappointment, not that it's terrible. Terrible was War at Stormblood's launch. ShB war is disappointing or boring, but it's still okay imo.

And it is a bit of a disappointment isn't it? Recycled animations. In the case of Overpower and Mythril Tempest, the animations don't even feel like they belong together in a combo. Cone AOE comboing with a 360 AOE doesn't feel right. Nascent flash/Raw Intuition feels like Inner Beast with the mitigation and healing split into two actions.

There's annoying things like still having to prep single target combo to do our AOE combo. Personally, I kinda wish they ditched Storm's Eye buff in PVE like they did in PvP. Onslaught costing rage is also bad - actually, it downright feels awful and doesn't gel well with the FC for more Infuriate for more Inner Chaos mechanic. I wish Warriors had a second resource for stuff like Onslaught so that it doesn't compete with Rage which is our dps resource. Onslaught should just be free. Just do it. Half cooldown and potency on Upheaval if they wanna give wars a rage dump button. Or, I don't know, give warriors a new rage dump button instead of Onslaught. Upheaval's place in the warrior kit is also odd. It's just a button you hit every 30 secs. It really is kind of boring. I wish it had something else tied to it, like a dot or something.

Nascent Flash should also be useable without a target in PVP. Or at least increase the healing on Storm's Path to 150% or allow add some healing to Inner Chaos for PVP.

But these issues aside, I love everything else about Shadowbringers thus far. The questing and zone design are far superior than what we got in Storms blood. STory is also much more interesting.

I just want them to iron out some of clunkiness in War's gameplay, and I couldn't be happier with this xpac.

**Takamorisan** · 07-06-2019 03:07 PM

I agree with the animations needing a rework. When I saw INNER CHAOS LVL 80, I was like hell I will open a gaping wound do something really metal.
When I finally got it, its Inner Beast with a fart explosion effect, not even a cool slicing sound.
As mechanic wise, the class is in a good spot, very flexible and fluid. No need to do unnecessary complicated stuff to start doing what it meant to do like in Stormblood release.

**SgtPepperUK** · 07-10-2019 08:23 PM

tbh I've gotten WAR to 76 and I'm done, the loss of heals from Inner Beast and Steel Cyclone means I'm dying way more now. I pull small, party says pull more, I pull more, healer cannot keep up and, with no HP back from Steel Cyclone, I die.

Nascent Flash doesn't make up for it, it's clunky to use so not really good for those big pulls.

Going to go back to PLD and see how that plays.

**Praesul** · 07-10-2019 09:18 PM

Originally Posted by SgtPepperUK

tbh I've gotten WAR to 76 and I'm done, the loss of heals from Inner Beast and Steel Cyclone means I'm dying way more now. I pull small, party says pull more, I pull more, healer cannot keep up and, with no HP back from Steel Cyclone, I die.

Nascent Flash doesn't make up for it, it's clunky to use so not really good for those big pulls.

Going to go back to PLD and see how that plays.

If you were doing things right before, you were mass pulling in Deliverance which meant no self heals anyway. Now you get the best of both worlds, if you can't utilize it right that's not the game's fault.

**SgtPepperUK** · 07-10-2019 11:41 PM

Originally Posted by Praesul

If you were doing things right before, you were mass pulling in Deliverance which meant no self heals anyway. Now you get the best of both worlds, if you can't utilize it right that's not the game's fault.

I did big pulls in Defiance, keep hate, Steel Cyclone to keep my own health at a good level. I rarely dropped into Deliverance, occasionally the odd boss when running with healers I knew and trusted.

**WhyAmIHere** · 07-11-2019 06:27 AM

Originally Posted by SgtPepperUK

tbh I've gotten WAR to 76 and I'm done, the loss of heals from Inner Beast and Steel Cyclone means I'm dying way more now. I pull small, party says pull more, I pull more, healer cannot keep up and, with no HP back from Steel Cyclone, I die.

Nascent Flash doesn't make up for it, it's clunky to use so not really good for those big pulls.

Going to go back to PLD and see how that plays.

Are you using your cooldowns? RI is now a flat damage mitigation, Thrill is slightly changed but still gives you 20% more HP and has the conva effect baked into it. EDIT:: Also now SiO is a starting 12% mitigation since IB was removed.
If you're dying on small pulls, either you're not mitigating trash adequately, or your healer is asleep at the wheel.

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