Quote Originally Posted by Valic View Post
I'm not talking about specifically MSQ roulette, I mean everything to progress through the MSQ. Also if time is the only difference in me getting wolf marks from having to try and win vs basically doing nothing and losing.... then what's the point of trying? Just queue in and get the thing, it'll be a couple times but, you still get what you want regardless? I've seen tanks who act as though they need to toggle their stance for swaps, toggle them mid pull, or for some reason turn them off mid dungeon and don't understand why their healer is being attacked by 5 different things at once.

take the 100 pvp wins for the new frontlines mount. It's 1/3 you get a team of people who genuinely want to try and win that actually do... so you just queue on a whim that you're on that side, and regardless of your effort, you either get it or don't. Now, assume the reward was based off of say, doing an accumulated amount of damage while in frontlines or for getting 1000 kills. THEN you'd notice people who want that mount would be actively trying to get it by TRYING to accomplish the feat. If you get it regardless of your effort, it's not really an achievement is it? It's more of a "it happened.... here ya go".

Also I won't start on the level/MSQ skips, I've always believed those should be restricted to accounts that have already progressed through the main story at least once. Or who have at least one character a a minimum level requirement to buy a skip. Im not against them and I don't find them pay to win, but they definitely don't help with people "not learning".
There's been some instances where I've seen people complain about the fight with Ra jit and that fight still hasn't been changed. Point of trying to win is more wolf marks and getting what you want quicker than having to do it over and over again. Rarely will I see people just sit and do nothing. As far as your encounters with tanks like that, can't say I've ran into that. Also I believe trying to get 1000 kills would be more of a struggle, you'd have people snip each other for kills and that would just create a whole mess of frustration. MSQ skips are completely fine, level skips however do give a little incentive to "Hey you're so and so level but do seek guidance about the class". People don't always learn the same way. Some learn through leveling, some learn through guides, or through kind enough people that offer advice. I learned a few classes just by being in Palace of the dead since it auto levels you with your skills to 60. I'm not saying they're perfectly fine by any means, I do however feel like it's just a nice thing having that option to be able to buy one because I'm dreading even thinking about leveling my Monk. It is still level 34.