The difference between WoW and FF14

[Schan]

There's a lot of toxic people in savage/ex. Trust me. Here are the most notable toxic people I've ever had the misfortune of witnessing:

-PF set up for farm. Toxic guy who only cleared by getting carried sneaks his way into it

-Gets silently kicked, reports party leader for harassment.

-Demands an explanation, finally gets one, reports the person who gave the explanation.

-Attempts to join another savage/ex, PF explicitly states logs will be checked before starting duty. Joins party anyways, gets kicked 3mins later, reports pf leader for log check.

-Goes to forum, complains all savage/ex raiders are toxic. Complains about being called out for underperforming in the most difficult content in the game. Petitions to SE all manner of performance measuring tools and websites should be outright banned. Returns to game to lead completely "non-toxic" inquisition/crusade against all who "don't pay their sub".

And then on the not so quite savage but regular endgame duties, you also have this type:

-Uses half toolkit available, gets called out, files harassment report on the caller

-Was asked if they were new to duty so they could receive crucial tips on certain mechs. Did not respond. Calls other people toxic for not providing help after being called out for dying several times to the same mech.

-Enrolls as tank in 8/24man raid. Does not want to main tank. Starts fighting other tank for aggro.

-Enrolls in 8/24man raid as healer. Tunnel dps. Other healer goes oom. Gets mad at other healer for being called out on not healing. Files report for toxicity.

-Enrolls in 8/24man raid as a dps. Fails to complete dps checks. Petitions SE to nerf content. Calls people who want challenging content toxic.

EDIT: Should be noted here, all the call outs refer to blunt/straightforward/neutral call outs, not the "you stupid, clumsy, *****, what the eff are you doing, you waste of oxygen" call outs.

Wow... what kind of hell hole are you people stuck in? I've never been warned despite calling people out on a regular basis. O.o
Somehow i even got recognized in the 24 man raids the other day. I do wonder if it's because of my bossiness or I was either realy good or really bad lol

Just because they decide to file a report it doesn't mean anything will come out of it. I do wonder how often i've been reported.

This right here is why I don't raid and will probably never do Eden's Gate Titan more than the once. People will dump on me for trying.

Let them be, they were trying something new and watching guides can only do so much. Really learning encounters comes from experiencing them.

Welcome to the game, OP!

This kinda makes me sad. Savage is quite fun. I've been pugging it on my AST to get experience and more often than not I bump into people who are like "we can do this!" instead of having people flaming you. Maybe I've been lucky. Doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

In my anedoctal experience I see more toxicity in the 24 man raids than Savage pugging. Probably because of the sheer amount of players involved. You're more likely to bump into a bad apple if you're stuck with 23 other people than 7 other people.

Ayhura give it a try at some point.

[SerLuke]

This right here is why I don't raid and will probably never do Eden's Gate Titan more than the once. People will dump on me for trying.

Let them be, they were trying something new and watching guides can only do so much. Really learning encounters comes from experiencing them.

Welcome to the game, OP!

Don’t let people like him get you down when I was new I encountered a few people like but honest it’s been very few and far between

[Kobalos]

Been playing the game for over a year an a half even called Asahi sas Brutus a c*** one time in Castrum Fluminis. Dunno where all these so called crybabies are...Maybe its different on an EU server. Pretty sure it's possible to run a trial or raid without effin' and blinding at people apart from Asahi tho that guy really is a 'see you next Tueday'

[NekoNova]

Been playing the game for over a year an a half even called Asahi sas Brutus a c*** one time in Castrum Fluminis. Dunno where all these so called crybabies are...Maybe its different on an EU server. Pretty sure it's possible to run a trial or raid without effin' and blinding at people apart from Asahi tho that guy really is a 'see you next Tueday'

EU Alliance raids and MSQ runs are always a bliss in party/alliance chat.
We're definitely different then US servers

[RoyalBeef]

This right here is why I don't raid and will probably never do Eden's Gate Titan more than the once. People will dump on me for trying.

So what? People care too much about what other players think and say honestly. They're random people who just want to get the job done, they're not your parents and neither are they obligated to validate or encourage you.

[RoyalBeef]

Now you know we're really no different.

Wait, are you implying that the FF14 consists of different individual humans with a wide range of personalities, just as every other community? Bummer :P

[Mahoukenshi]

Wait, are you implying that the FF14 consists of different individual humans with a wide range of personalities, just as every other community? Bummer :P

Like the old saying states: Pics or it didn't happen XD

[Granyala]

What a HUGE difference between that experience and the experience I'd have under the same circumstances in WoW. It's actually amazing.

I just wish FF14 wasn't so quiet!

That's the price you pay for an overly trigger happy Blockwart community that reports everything that might offend someone at some time in the next 1000 years.

After playing this game for 5 years I learned that the community here is no different than WoWs, the only thing is that in WoW people say it to your face, here, people rage behind your back while putting on a polite front. Result: eventually you will get kicked w/o someone saying a word to you.

[cinnamoon]

So finally made it to level 50 and that "raid". The one called "bard"-something-or-other. Full party.

What struck me was the massive difference between WoW and FF14.

Due to not knowing the fight and my horrendous latency (1000+ms), I died...a lot.

Not one single person flamed me, or told me to "get gud", or uninstall, or anything like that.

Actually, they just kept throwing rezzes at me.

What a HUGE difference between that experience and the experience I'd have under the same circumstances in WoW. It's actually amazing.


I just wish FF14 wasn't so quiet! I do miss the world chat WoW has. FF14 is very lonely. I don't play very much because I feel so alone in the world. I liked the world chat because, even when not participating, it made the world seem so much more alive. The chat was entertaining as much as the gameplay was.

Lonely?
You may wanna try to join the so called "linkshells" or free companies even. FF14 (as I can read between the lines in your post) has a great and big community. Not everyone wants a world / all - chat because it can get a bit messy..
I think what you want in this game is the get to know people in order to have company!

[SturmChurro]

That's the price you pay for an overly trigger happy Blockwart community that reports everything that might offend someone at some time in the next 1000 years.

After playing this game for 5 years I learned that the community here is no different than WoWs, the only thing is that in WoW people say it to your face, here, people rage behind your back while putting on a polite front. Result: eventually you will get kicked w/o someone saying a word to you.

They gotta do that! If they don't put on a front, they will be reported and banned!