The difference between WoW and FF14

[warcanoe]

Very happy you had an enjoyable raid! Another reason why most people do not mind the new player is that if the dungeon or raid ect. has someone that has not done it the entire group gets a bonus. Just an fyi in case you missed that. Happy gaming!

[CookiesNCreams]

People are very snowflake-ish on FFXIV and report a lot, so many people just chat in FC or linkshells. And even then, you could still get reported. But even so, FFXIV is a much better mmo overall.

[Melichoir]

So finally made it to level 50 and that "raid". The one called "bard"-something-or-other. Full party.

What struck me was the massive difference between WoW and FF14.

Due to not knowing the fight and my horrendous latency (1000+ms), I died...a lot.

Not one single person flamed me, or told me to "get gud", or uninstall, or anything like that.

Actually, they just kept throwing rezzes at me.

What a HUGE difference between that experience and the experience I'd have under the same circumstances in WoW. It's actually amazing.


I just wish FF14 wasn't so quiet! I do miss the world chat WoW has. FF14 is very lonely. I don't play very much because I feel so alone in the world. I liked the world chat because, even when not participating, it made the world seem so much more alive. The chat was entertaining as much as the gameplay was.

World chat doesnt happen to much outside of major hubs (like Limsa). Out in the world space or what not, its all linkshells, discord, and FC banter predominately. Just take it to heart that a good idea is to go find a linkshell/static/FC that has more active/chatty members. It can make a different if thats what youre looking for. Also dont be afraid to strike up conversations in party chat. As odd as it is, most people wont talk out of the blue, so if you break the ice youll generally get some good response then. Not all parties mind you. Some people want to get in and out. But yeah, gotta put yourself out there.

[Rasikko]

Can be in an FC and still feel like you're in a world of one in the game..

[MaelleRiou]

I think it's just that FFXIV moderators actually enforce chat rules so players have learned to not be jerks to each other while in WoW you can get away with a whole hell of a lot before mods step in.

[KageTokage]

I did definitely run into more people with nasty attitudes a lot more often in random instanced content while playing WoW then I did XIV.

I've had more bad social experiences in XIV then WoW, though...

[Makeda]

So I guess sadly this thread itself has outed one example of toxic players in this game as well with that person who was calling the OP deadweight... I won't quote him, several others already have.

So, now you know... they do in fact also exist here.


Recently I've had an uptick in toxic players here. The morality police sorts I noted on a prior page of the thread...

Back in WoW, at least anytime I went over to Alliance side, the general / trade chat had at least one if not several racist rants a day... and those would sometimes go on and on for hours after being reported - log out, come back, and the same folks would still be at it...

- I have seen that here, but limited to Discord where SE can't tough them. So those players are still around... but they keep it out of game. An FC I was in on Coeurl in early August... had to leave them after that.

I did definitely run into more people with nasty attitudes a lot more often in random instanced content while playing WoW then I did XIV.

I've had more bad social experiences in XIV then WoW, though...

Yeah... and that makes me think on this too...

More nasty folks in WoW, but also less social here...

I think the presence of 'elitist sorts' is actually stronger here than in WoW. Raiding communities in both rely heavily on external logging sites. But WoW raiders tend to use a trial period to see how your logs look with them rather than look at prior logs. What FFXIV calls 'midcore' raiders WoW would see as Hardcore, as far as social dynamics go. And most raiders there are not in that sphere of things.

I think it's also easier to be, or rather get over; being a stranger in WoW... I've done server transfers in both games at points - and in WoW it is a lot easier to 'break through' into a new community after doing that.

FFXIV servers seem to just not be easy to find new friends on. I could go back to WoW, pick a new server; and I'd probably have a dozen friends within a week. Here, that could take me 6+ months and only then if I was actively hunting them down and pestering people...
- I suspect this is a sideeffect of the linkshell system. In WoW to communicate outside your guild with multiple people you're going to do it in zone, general, or trade - and it broadcasts wide, so people join in... and you meet new people - both good and bad.
- Here all of that goes private very quickly and communities become insular.


Also... I like revealing glams, I find them cute. Despite the constant racism and also sexism I see in WoW, nobody has ever morality police 'shamed me' for a glamour choice there, nor tried to force ERP on me...

[SilentVoice]

community, maybe on lesser margin than other games, but "school kids" and elitists are out there, waging wars and comparing epeens whenever they get a chance to do that. so i suggest OP just wait till he gets to 80s and also try new 24 man raids when they get released. that'd be helluva ride through toxic wastes =)

[SerLuke]

I use party, alliance, and shout chat all the time and have never been in trouble with GMs, perhaps people consoling about being reported should consider what they are saying or how they are saying it...

[Scryar]

I haven't played current wow for around 12 years (stopped playing during burning crusade) but after trying out classic I was surprised how alive a mmo can feel. There is so much talk in world/region chat and in groups. FF XIV' world chat is pretty much dead most of the time and in most dungeons groups you can be lucky if you get a hello back.. People really don't like to talk to strangers in this game. That's why it's difficult to really judge the community and if it's better like many people say.
Not sure what the reason for this is, but my guess would be that ff 14 has a lot of anti-social players. Furthermore this game has a very strict Tos, so people are way quicker to report someone and this leads to many people not talking at all outside of their fc's or linkshells.