Quote Originally Posted by Kaylessa View Post
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Yes, there is a special meaning when it comes to chess, but there is also a generic meaning. You don't have to apply the word to every game, but if you do apply it to a game, there is still a relationship between the generic meaning and the special meaning for that particular game. Even the special meaning for chess still fits the generic meaning. And that's the point. You apply the meaning to a game, not a genre. Chess is a board game, but the meaning of endgame for chess doesn't necessarily make sense if applied to another board game.

So while FFXIV doesn't have to follow other MMOs concepts of endgame, if they come up with something different you can't call it endgame. Fishing isn't endgame. Gold saucer isn't endgame. Hunting down most glamor isn't endgame. And when someone says "boy this game lacks endgame" you don't get to point to any of those activities and call it that. Because you'd be wrong.
Well, agreed there because none of those fits any reasonable definition of endgame for FFXIV. Not every content is endgame content, otherwise endgame loses its meaning entirely.

Your second definition of endgame is false. It does not apply in any MMO game, FFXIV included. You can't do endgame content on a job that isn't maxed, and yes it is off topic because it has nothing to do with the topic at hand.

People need to stop making up definitions.
Either you're misreading what I said, or you're applying how endgame works in a game that doesn't work like FFXIV to FFXIV. If it's content that requires you to finish the x.0 MSQ to unlock, meaning your character has to reach level cap with at least one combat job before you can even begin that content, how can it not be considered endgame? Again, the only reason would be if you're applying how endgame works in another game to FFXIV.