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    Granyala's Avatar
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    Ifalna Sha'yoko
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    Cerberus
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Sylve View Post
    So this thread got out of hand right quick. People using ToS illegal parse data uploaded to a third party website to discredit another poster. You may not feel like you were 'shaming' him, but the entire point of Yoshi's stance is that you use parse data against another player.
    There was no positivity in the reveal of that data. Which is the point.
    So umm, dumb question (asked context neutral):
    If [Person 1] makes outlandish [claim X] and [Person 2] uses hard data to prove that [claim X] is simply not accurate, how on earth are you going to get "positivity" in terms of feels??

    Of course Person 1 will be offended. It has just been publicly revealed that it's claims were bogus.
    Person 2 won't feel much better because it's not fun to expose another person like that.

    The general community will be better off because [claim X] has been viewed in utter transparency.

    If you ask me: people are way to obsessed with "feeling good at all times" these days. No it's not fun getting told "you're doing it wrong". It isn't fun to recognize that you aren't as awesome as you think you are. Trust me I have had many of these moments in both real life and gaming.
    It's so easy to live in a bubble and not compare yourself to others but ultimately, seeing yourself for what you truly are is liberating and you can then focus on the weaknesses at hand and make real improvements.
    If no one ever dared to speak up, because your feels might be offended... how on earth are you going to realize? How are you supposed to learn effectively?

    Quote Originally Posted by Connor View Post
    Also I don’t think it’s fair to say that players that don’t do savage have no need of such a metric, just because the content is easy doesn’t mean players won’t want to do as well as they can
    You said it yourself: they do not have the NEED. The content doesn't demand that kind of refined performance to be beaten.
    They may very well have the WANT though. Completely understandable.

    I have the evil program running in close to every dungeon (I only upload the data for raids though), not because I need it but because I want to see what I am doing.... or not doing.
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    Last edited by Granyala; 08-02-2019 at 01:01 AM.