Please let PS4 parse our dps like pc

[JowyAtreides]

The parse is just tolerated by SE, with a risk of ban if it is used to deny a person in a party with link in the chat.

it was never possible to use a console mod, it does not change and it does not depend on SE, but Sony.

Take for example Skyrim, it was never possible on console, but on PC you can mod to change everything in the game.

If you want to use a parse, go on PC, there will never be a solution to your problem.

Didn't PS4 players get access to mods on Skyrim?

Also, I'm still an advocate for no parsers at all.

Perhaps they should give us an ingame feature that indicates to us whether our damage is good enough to take down bosses........

[TalithaSolarien]

Didn't PS4 players get access to mods on Skyrim?

Also, I'm still an advocate for no parsers at all.

Perhaps they should give us an ingame feature that indicates to us whether our damage is good enough to take down bosses........

Mods for Skyrim on PS4 are heavily restricted due to Sony. They cannot access any active assets from outside the game. This would make implementing a parser impossible.

[Misutoraru]

24 pages and I must say my stance change to against thid tool. thank god, it is not official and I hope it never make official.
There are some ppl use it as a tool to improve itself. Yet, there are also ppl using it in a terrible way. This tool really took the worst out of ppl. Toxic people gonna be toxic but thank god, we stop giving them a tool to be even more toxic

[Nedkel]

24 pages and I must say my stance change to against thid tool. thank god, it is not official and I hope it never make official.
There are some ppl use it as a tool to improve itself. Yet, there are also ppl using it in a terrible way. This tool really took the worst out of ppl. Toxic people gonna be toxic but thank god, we stop giving them a tool to be even more toxic

Exactly.
How could someone look at this thread and honestly say that official parser wouldnt have an effect on the culture of the community in this game.

It will, and it will be bad.
PS4 parser or any official parser in general would make casuals and newbies to turn away on the toe and never come back.

[Saintly]

Again, i never seen such an entitled community.
No-one should be forced to carry dead weight.
If anything an official parser will be a wake-up call for those who want to try end-game content yet keep getting booted to step-up their game.

Also for the snowflakes who gets super offended when someone calls their terrible dps out, there is /block.

[Sylve]

So this thread got out of hand right quick. People using ToS illegal parse data uploaded to a third party website to discredit another poster. You may not feel like you were 'shaming' him, but the entire point of Yoshi's stance is that you use parse data against another player.
There was no positivity in the reveal of that data. Which is the point.


For PS4 players who wish to improve themselves in raiding but do not have access to a trusted friend/PC, I will give you a suggestion.

Use the Duty Recorder.

True improvement comes from understanding the mechanics of a fight and utilizing that understanding to maximize your uptime on a boss.
The Duty Recorder is the closest thing to a parser that SE has ever given us.
Make yourself a party, do a raid run.
Record those runs.
Play them back and watch yourself with intense scrutiny on how you react to every mechanic. Then ask yourself how might you have reduced the impact reacting to that mechanic had on your rotation?
Sometimes. it'll be as simple as realizing you can save Triplecast as a BLM for a specific moment in the fight to keep maximum uptime while being mobile enough to deal with mechanics.

Look up one of the many guides out there for your job. Turn that guide into a muscle memory rotation. If your rotation on a dummy matches what the best guides recommend, Your DPS will be appropriate to your ilvl.
Take that rotation with you into your Duty Recorded playbacks. Are you keeping your rotation up? What prevents you or limits you from maintaining it? Solve the problem. Your DPS improves.

The tools to improve are already in the game, all you have to do is use them. Parsers are great for telling you raw numbers. Not so much for helping you improve at a specific encounter.

[CorbinDallas]

Use the Duty Recorder.

I would if it was usable in more than 2 instances.

[Granyala]

So this thread got out of hand right quick. People using ToS illegal parse data uploaded to a third party website to discredit another poster. You may not feel like you were 'shaming' him, but the entire point of Yoshi's stance is that you use parse data against another player.
There was no positivity in the reveal of that data. Which is the point.

So umm, dumb question (asked context neutral):
If [Person 1] makes outlandish [claim X] and [Person 2] uses hard data to prove that [claim X] is simply not accurate, how on earth are you going to get "positivity" in terms of feels??

Of course Person 1 will be offended. It has just been publicly revealed that it's claims were bogus.
Person 2 won't feel much better because it's not fun to expose another person like that.

The general community will be better off because [claim X] has been viewed in utter transparency.

If you ask me: people are way to obsessed with "feeling good at all times" these days. No it's not fun getting told "you're doing it wrong". It isn't fun to recognize that you aren't as awesome as you think you are. Trust me I have had many of these moments in both real life and gaming.
It's so easy to live in a bubble and not compare yourself to others but ultimately, seeing yourself for what you truly are is liberating and you can then focus on the weaknesses at hand and make real improvements.
If no one ever dared to speak up, because your feels might be offended... how on earth are you going to realize? How are you supposed to learn effectively?

Also I don’t think it’s fair to say that players that don’t do savage have no need of such a metric, just because the content is easy doesn’t mean players won’t want to do as well as they can

You said it yourself: they do not have the NEED. The content doesn't demand that kind of refined performance to be beaten.
They may very well have the WANT though. Completely understandable.

I have the evil program running in close to every dungeon (I only upload the data for raids though), not because I need it but because I want to see what I am doing.... or not doing.

[Qeilos]

So umm, dumb question (asked context neutral):
If [Person 1] makes outlandish [claim X] and [Person 2] uses hard data to prove that [claim X] is simply not accurate, how on earth are you going to get "positivity" in terms of feels??

Of course Person 1 will be offended. It has just been publicly revealed that it's claims were bogus.
Person 2 won't feel much better because it's not fun to expose another person like that.

The general community will be better off because [claim X] has been viewed in utter transparency.

If you ask me: people are way to obsessed with "feeling good at all times" these days. No it's not fun getting told "you're doing it wrong". It isn't fun to recognize that you aren't as awesome as you think you are. Trust me I have had many of these moments in both real life and gaming.
It's so easy to live in a bubble and not compare yourself to others but ultimately, seeing yourself for what you truly are is liberating and you can then focus on the weaknesses at hand and make real improvements.
If no one ever dared to speak up, because your feels might be offended... how on earth are you going to realize? How are you supposed to learn effectively?



You said it yourself: they do not have the NEED. The content doesn't demand that kind of refined performance to be beaten.
They may very well have the WANT though. Completely understandable.

I have the evil program running in close to every dungeon (I only upload the data for raids though), not because I need it but because I want to see what I am doing.... or not doing.

It wasnt even necessary to call him out. A couple people called him out from things gotten from Lodestone lol. How are Sqenix going to react to their own site being used as a tool for "harassment" lol.

[Granyala]

It wasnt even necessary to call him out. A couple people called him out from things gotten from Lodestone lol. How are Sqenix going to react to their own site being used as a tool for "harassment" lol.

I think the Lodestone analysis came after the parse data, not sure since that mess stretched across two threads.

SE surely won't be happy but I doubt they'll do anything. Achievement shaming or exclusion based on kill achievements is nothing new.
Go try to find a PuG in WoW w/o having the "Ahead of the Curve" achievement of the tier in question.

People that want to be exclusive will find a way to do so. If it aren't your parse values it'll be your achievement history. If it isn't your achievement history it'll be your item level. If it isn't your item level it'll be sth else.

Personally I know enough to stay away from PuGs with outlandish requirements because more often than not, the leaders want to compensate their own incompetence that way.