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  1. #8571
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    Quote Originally Posted by Komarimono View Post
    so no point really in asking and begging.
    You do realize that's literally how we got the male bunny suits, right? by doing exactly what we're doing now, "asking and begging". That kind of "Just give up" attitude serves no purpose. It's a thread on a forum, it ain't hurtin' nobody. Change doesn't happen by being silent; never has, never will.

    If you want to hope in silence, then that's cool, you do you, but trying to demoralize people in an attempt at showing them how fruitless you perceive the efforts are isn't helping.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mochamonarch View Post
    You do realize that's literally how we got the male bunny suits, right? by doing exactly what we're doing now, "asking and begging". That kind of "Just give up" attitude serves no purpose. It's a thread on a forum, it ain't hurtin' nobody. Change doesn't happen by being silent; never has, never will.

    If you want to hope in silence, then that's cool, you do you, but trying to demoralize people in an attempt at showing them how fruitless you perceive the efforts are isn't helping.
    A bunny suit is far easier to implement then an entire race. You know that, we all know that. That's simply a texture UV map and mesh re-model of a few items. Yoshi has already said adding another race, in this case two genders for two races, is quite complicated and time consuming.

    Doesn't retract from the fact people are in this thread, and others, spreading lies about males coming out, which we know for a fact as of now, they are not.
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    The male version of the bunny suit wasn't exactly added in a satisfying manner in the eyes of many. It was just a straight up copy of the female version.

    As for male viera, the current official situation is that it could go either way. They may be added to the game. Equally so, they might not. I'm not holding my breath for them to be added anytime soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Komarimono View Post
    A bunny suit is far easier to implement then an entire race. You know that, we all know that. That's simply a texture UV map and mesh re-model of a few items. Yoshi has already said adding another race, in this case two genders for two races, is quite complicated and time consuming.

    Doesn't retract from the fact people are in this thread, and others, spreading lies about males coming out, which we know for a fact as of now, they are not.
    Yes, and at the same time they said they would consider it. People voicing an expectation about them coming in 6.0 is not lying. Claiming Yoshida said they will be added would be a lie. Who is claiming that, though? Even if some people did make such claims, those met with such comments should have enough critical thinking ability to ask for the source.
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  5. #8575
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    Yes, and at the same time they said they would consider it. People voicing an expectation about them coming in 6.0 is not lying. Claiming Yoshida said they will be added would be a lie. Who is claiming that, though? Even if some people did make such claims, those met with such comments should have enough critical thinking ability to ask for the source.
    Would you have a source of them stating they would consider it? I've yet to find anything in my searches, other then Yoshi stating they were considering male Viera, but instead wanted to implement a beast race in the form of Hrothgar from player feedback during testing and discussion.
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  6. #8576
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    Quote Originally Posted by Komarimono View Post
    A bunny suit is far easier to implement then an entire race.
    its also how we got femroes and male miqo tho
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    Quote Originally Posted by Komarimono View Post
    Would you have a source of them stating they would consider it? I've yet to find anything in my searches, other then Yoshi stating they were considering male Viera, but instead wanted to implement a beast race in the form of Hrothgar from player feedback during testing and discussion.
    well actually Hrothgar was the first in development because they felt a beast race was needed
    so it was either Female Hrothgar or Female viera and they chose viera because of the demand
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  8. #8578
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    The male version of the bunny suit wasn't exactly added in a satisfying manner in the eyes of many.
    Speak for yourself, I (and plenty others) think it was added wonderfully. I'm living for those heels and fishnets. :P
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  9. #8579
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duskane View Post
    well actually Hrothgar was the first in development because they felt a beast race was needed
    so it was either Female Hrothgar or Female viera and they chose viera because of the demand
    I was going based off an interview, since they had wanted to launch Viera all the way back in Heavensward, had models, concepts etc. But of course never announced it until the reveal for Shadowbringers when the race was finally being brought into the game.

    I'm still eager to find a source of them considering it though, I've read their twitters, and only way one could even think of thinking them considering it is if they used google translate which does very poorly in translating japanese.


    Quote Originally Posted by Mochamonarch View Post
    Speak for yourself, I (and plenty others) think it was added wonderfully. I'm living for those heels and fishnets. :P
    For people not understanding how it works, makes them happy surely. But it's literally a two hour job at most per race. Simple rigging the mesh to the models one by one, culling model mesh for the heels, and a simply UV map tweak for clarity. Hence why some thought it lazy since the exact same mesh as the females, nothing changed just rigged to the male mesh form. Glad others got what they wanted though.
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  10. #8580
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    Quote Originally Posted by Komarimono View Post
    Would you have a source of them stating they would consider it?
    https://www.gamespot.com/articles/sq...source=twitter

    There you go.

    Quote Originally Posted by Komarimono View Post
    For people not understanding how it works, makes them happy surely. But it's literally a two hour job at most per race. Simple rigging the mesh to the models one by one, culling model mesh for the heels, and a simply UV map tweak for clarity. Hence why some thought it lazy since the exact same mesh as the females, nothing changed just rigged to the male mesh form. Glad others got what they wanted though.

    Yep, that sure is what they did. And it was absolutely delicious. Granted, I wished they were a little quicker on it as well, but I am beyond pleased with the end result. Glad we didn't get a Chippendale thing like some people wanted when you can easily craft that on your own by taking off your male toon's shirt.
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