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    Quote Originally Posted by Eli85 View Post
    You got a study that corroborates both of those statements? Ridiculous. There is no way for you to know either of these things, and it's beyond reckless to post them on a public forum.

    Pro-tip: When you say "players in general" or "people didn't want", just stop. You don't speak for the masses.
    I can say from experience that most parties advertised "sac-pull" or "trash-skipping" in their messages, and hell, people even sold/asked for the checkpoints in coil to get past trash and the miniboss in T1. It was incredibly common.

    Also, a study, really? It'sevents that happened 5-6 years ago in a game, where most advertising was still done in shouts. Party finder didn't exist, people didn't really use reddit. There's no proof left. It's also just as reckless to post that it didn't happen without proof.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    I can say from experience that most parties advertised "sac-pull" or "trash-skipping" in their messages, and hell, people even sold/asked for the checkpoints in coil to get past trash and the miniboss in T1. It was incredibly common.

    Also, a study, really? It'sevents that happened 5-6 years ago in a game, where most advertising was still done in shouts. Party finder didn't exist, people didn't really use reddit. There's no proof left. It's also just as reckless to post that it didn't happen without proof.
    You say that from your experience? That's called anecdotal evidence, which is reflective of your own, personal experience, and cannot be applied to anyone else (or, worse, even a game). Just because you experienced people asking to trash skip or sac pull, does not mean that is everyone's experience.

    Yet, you would pronounce your own personal experience as the reason for a change. Please.

    Post a study or metrics that corroborate the claim. If you do not, then you're just spreading misinformation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eli85 View Post
    You say that from your experience? That's called anecdotal evidence, which is reflective of your own, personal experience, and cannot be applied to anyone else (or, worse, even a game). Just because you experienced people asking to trash skip or sac pull, does not mean that is everyone's experience.

    Yet, you would pronounce your own personal experience as the reason for a change. Please.

    Post a study or metrics that corroborate the claim. If you do not, then you're just spreading misinformation.
    Do you have a study showing otherwise?

    Saying it's anecdotal evidence may be accurate sure. But there is no study that exists like I said. No one does studies on these things. You are just trying to get out of having to make a return argument. Did you have a different experience during Coil? Did you even raid when coil was a thing?
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