watch a guide, you are not gonna die

[HyoMinPark]

i am petty and complaining about people asking for help while not watching a guide for non savage content, because thats what i did until the very end of heavensward and expect nothing less from others

So you're telling me that you expect players to watch guides for things like dungeons? The easiest content in the game that can be brute forced more times than not? That's silly. Most bosses have one major thing to look out for, and it doesn't take hardly any time to just say "Watch out for X" if someone asks.

Guides aren't needed for non-Savage content. But at least you admit that you're being petty.

[DumdogsWorld]

so you are saying you dont like a step by step of what the boss does, because its like someone is thinking for you? because thats what i like on a guide, everything that the boss does in other for me to know what to expect

There are guides that literally tell you how to conduct the entire run/fight, down to the smallest detail. I, personally, don't care for those kinds of guides. My main reason for going to guides for information is to know which mechanics can be problematic and how to pass said mechanics.

Take, for example, Sunken Temple of Qarn (normal). The doom mechanic is nice to know about in advance.

[RareItems]

I usually watch a guide before doing any dungeon or trial, those 3-4 minute MTQcapture videos helps a lot.

[Alucard135]

Take, for example, Sunken Temple of Qarn (normal). The doom mechanic is nice to know about in advance.

Which just takes 5 seconds to type to inform the healer if they were new.

[DumdogsWorld]

Which just takes 5 seconds to type to inform the healer if they were new.

I was speaking from my own perspective, back when I was new to that dungeon. What if I go into a dungeon and nobody bothers to explain it to me? I tend to be rather quiet, so I'm probably not going to ask the party for an explanation.

Honestly, it's just more reliable for me to Google it. That's how I choose to conduct myself. In no way do I expect you to feel the same way.

[Vahlnir]

I was speaking from my own perspective, back when I was new to that dungeon. What if I go into a dungeon and nobody bothers to explain it to me? I tend to be rather quiet, so I'm probably not going to ask the party for an explanation.

Honestly, it's just more reliable for me to Google it. That's how I choose to conduct myself. In no way do I expect you to feel the same way.

It'd probably take less time to say "anything I need to know?" and probably get a response but you do you.

[TalosEscher]

Well...for non savage or non Extreme content watching a guide isn't needed. At all. If it's hard to type out a sentence or 2 describing some minor mechanics then I don't even know what to tell you. If it's Extreme trials, Savage raids or Ultimate then yeah, you have a point. People should come prepared for those.

then they shouldnt ask for help in a 4 man dungeon, cus we all know we can survive ignoring mechanics, my point in making this threat was to point out that people act like im the most rude person from saying "watch a guide" no actual rude words said, i would know if i said anything that was disrespectful, but when i say "watch a guide" people act like its the most insulting thing ever, it shouldnt be, it is direspectful to someone to come to a dungeon without knowing anything and ask a non mentor person to explain them the mechanics, i would be fine if they didnt say anything at all or ask for help and not care about me saying watch a guide, my problem is the mentality that someone saying watch a guide is disrespectful. because i dont understand why that would be

[HyoMinPark]

I was speaking from my own perspective, back when I was new to that dungeon. What if I go into a dungeon and nobody bothers to explain it to me? I tend to be rather quiet, so I'm probably not going to ask the party for an explanation.

Honestly, it's just more reliable for me to Google it. That's how I choose to conduct myself. In no way do I expect you to feel the same way.

To be fair, if you are quiet and say nothing despite not knowing how to do a mechanic, how are people supposed to know to help you?

then they shouldnt ask for help in a 4 man dungeon, cus we all know we can survive ignoring mechanics, my point in making this threat was to point out that people act like im the most rude person from saying "watch a guide" no actual rude words said, i would know if i said anything that was disrespectful, but when i say "watch a guide" people act like its the most insulting thing ever, it shouldnt be, it is direspectful to someone to come to a dungeon without knowing anything and ask a non mentor person to explain them the mechanics, i would be fine if they didnt say anything at all or ask for help and not care about me saying watch a guide, my problem is the mentality that someone saying watch a guide is disrespectful. because i dont understand why that would be

I mean, it wouldn’t take you hardly any time to explain a core mechanic in a place like a dungeon—take Qarn’s first boss as an example.

“Anything I need to watch out for?”
“When you get Doom, step on the glowing platform. It changes every few seconds, so just watch out for that.”
“Oh, and kill the Wespe adds that spawn.”

That’s not hard to do.

Telling someone to watch a guide for a piece of 4-man content is extremely unhelpful and just avoiding the question—which some do consider to be quite rude. Mentor or no, that doesn’t mean that you are excused from not helping if someone actually bothers to ask. Personally, I’m thrilled when someone speaks up and asks if they need to know something. So many players would much rather run in blind and blame the healers for failing to save them from mechanics they repeatedly screw up over asking “Hey, is there anything major I should watch out for?”.

[TalosEscher]

So you're telling me that you expect players to watch guides for things like dungeons? The easiest content in the game that can be brute forced more times than not? That's silly. Most bosses have one major thing to look out for, and it doesn't take hardly any time to just say "Watch out for X" if someone asks.

Guides aren't needed for non-Savage content. But at least you admit that you're being petty.

yeah i am, it annoys me so im talking about it in public

[Skivvy]

then they shouldnt ask for help in a 4 man dungeon, cus we all know we can survive ignoring mechanics, my point in making this threat was to point out that people act like im the most rude person from saying "watch a guide" no actual rude words said, i would know if i said anything that was disrespectful, but when i say "watch a guide" people act like its the most insulting thing ever, it shouldnt be, it is direspectful to someone to come to a dungeon without knowing anything and ask a non mentor person to explain them the mechanics, i would be fine if they didnt say anything at all or ask for help and not care about me saying watch a guide, my problem is the mentality that someone saying watch a guide is disrespectful. because i dont understand why that would be

I would say only saying "Watch a guide" is quite rude. You are are announcing to the group that you are unwilling to help players new to the content. You also seem quite hung up about mentors. They are not the only person who can offer advice. I never wear the crown, and yet I am more than happy to give tips if I can and just try to make things easier for the group.