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    DumdogsWorld's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alucard135 View Post
    Which just takes 5 seconds to type to inform the healer if they were new.
    I was speaking from my own perspective, back when I was new to that dungeon. What if I go into a dungeon and nobody bothers to explain it to me? I tend to be rather quiet, so I'm probably not going to ask the party for an explanation.

    Honestly, it's just more reliable for me to Google it. That's how I choose to conduct myself. In no way do I expect you to feel the same way.
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    Elan Centauri
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    Quote Originally Posted by DumdogsWorld View Post
    I was speaking from my own perspective, back when I was new to that dungeon. What if I go into a dungeon and nobody bothers to explain it to me? I tend to be rather quiet, so I'm probably not going to ask the party for an explanation.

    Honestly, it's just more reliable for me to Google it. That's how I choose to conduct myself. In no way do I expect you to feel the same way.
    It'd probably take less time to say "anything I need to know?" and probably get a response but you do you.
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    Hyomin Park
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    Quote Originally Posted by DumdogsWorld View Post
    I was speaking from my own perspective, back when I was new to that dungeon. What if I go into a dungeon and nobody bothers to explain it to me? I tend to be rather quiet, so I'm probably not going to ask the party for an explanation.

    Honestly, it's just more reliable for me to Google it. That's how I choose to conduct myself. In no way do I expect you to feel the same way.
    To be fair, if you are quiet and say nothing despite not knowing how to do a mechanic, how are people supposed to know to help you?

    Quote Originally Posted by TalosEscher View Post
    then they shouldnt ask for help in a 4 man dungeon, cus we all know we can survive ignoring mechanics, my point in making this threat was to point out that people act like im the most rude person from saying "watch a guide" no actual rude words said, i would know if i said anything that was disrespectful, but when i say "watch a guide" people act like its the most insulting thing ever, it shouldnt be, it is direspectful to someone to come to a dungeon without knowing anything and ask a non mentor person to explain them the mechanics, i would be fine if they didnt say anything at all or ask for help and not care about me saying watch a guide, my problem is the mentality that someone saying watch a guide is disrespectful. because i dont understand why that would be
    I mean, it wouldn’t take you hardly any time to explain a core mechanic in a place like a dungeon—take Qarn’s first boss as an example.

    “Anything I need to watch out for?”
    “When you get Doom, step on the glowing platform. It changes every few seconds, so just watch out for that.”
    “Oh, and kill the Wespe adds that spawn.”

    That’s not hard to do.

    Telling someone to watch a guide for a piece of 4-man content is extremely unhelpful and just avoiding the question—which some do consider to be quite rude. Mentor or no, that doesn’t mean that you are excused from not helping if someone actually bothers to ask. Personally, I’m thrilled when someone speaks up and asks if they need to know something. So many players would much rather run in blind and blame the healers for failing to save them from mechanics they repeatedly screw up over asking “Hey, is there anything major I should watch out for?”.
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    Last edited by HyoMinPark; 05-20-2019 at 09:46 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    To be fair, if you are quiet and say nothing despite not knowing how to do a mechanic, how are people supposed to know to help you?
    I'm not entirely sure why everybody is nitpicking the things that I'm saying. I'm not telling anybody to look at guides, nor am I telling people to explain mechanics. I was simply relaying my experiences. I feel a 'peace of mind' feeling by memorizing the mechanics before I even enter the dungeon. I'll gladly take 10 or 15 minutes before my queue to read up if it means a smoother run without burdening the party.

    If people want to argue with me about that, then I don't know what to tell them....
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    Red Mage Lv 72
    Quote Originally Posted by DumdogsWorld View Post
    I'm not entirely sure why everybody is nitpicking the things that I'm saying. I'm not telling anybody to look at guides, nor am I telling people to explain mechanics. I was simply relaying my experiences. I feel a 'peace of mind' feeling by memorizing the mechanics before I even enter the dungeon. I'll gladly take 10 or 15 minutes before my queue to read up if it means a smoother run without burdening the party.

    If people want to argue with me about that, then I don't know what to tell them....
    you are fine, you are being a good person to focusing on efficiency and not giving other people problem over things you can do something about, you are the type of person we need, those that care.
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