watch a guide, you are not gonna die

[DumdogsWorld]

so you are saying you dont like a step by step of what the boss does, because its like someone is thinking for you? because thats what i like on a guide, everything that the boss does in other for me to know what to expect

There are guides that literally tell you how to conduct the entire run/fight, down to the smallest detail. I, personally, don't care for those kinds of guides. My main reason for going to guides for information is to know which mechanics can be problematic and how to pass said mechanics.

Take, for example, Sunken Temple of Qarn (normal). The doom mechanic is nice to know about in advance.

[Alucard135]

Take, for example, Sunken Temple of Qarn (normal). The doom mechanic is nice to know about in advance.

Which just takes 5 seconds to type to inform the healer if they were new.

[DumdogsWorld]

Which just takes 5 seconds to type to inform the healer if they were new.

I was speaking from my own perspective, back when I was new to that dungeon. What if I go into a dungeon and nobody bothers to explain it to me? I tend to be rather quiet, so I'm probably not going to ask the party for an explanation.

Honestly, it's just more reliable for me to Google it. That's how I choose to conduct myself. In no way do I expect you to feel the same way.

[Vahlnir]

I was speaking from my own perspective, back when I was new to that dungeon. What if I go into a dungeon and nobody bothers to explain it to me? I tend to be rather quiet, so I'm probably not going to ask the party for an explanation.

Honestly, it's just more reliable for me to Google it. That's how I choose to conduct myself. In no way do I expect you to feel the same way.

It'd probably take less time to say "anything I need to know?" and probably get a response but you do you.

[HyoMinPark]

I was speaking from my own perspective, back when I was new to that dungeon. What if I go into a dungeon and nobody bothers to explain it to me? I tend to be rather quiet, so I'm probably not going to ask the party for an explanation.

Honestly, it's just more reliable for me to Google it. That's how I choose to conduct myself. In no way do I expect you to feel the same way.

To be fair, if you are quiet and say nothing despite not knowing how to do a mechanic, how are people supposed to know to help you?

then they shouldnt ask for help in a 4 man dungeon, cus we all know we can survive ignoring mechanics, my point in making this threat was to point out that people act like im the most rude person from saying "watch a guide" no actual rude words said, i would know if i said anything that was disrespectful, but when i say "watch a guide" people act like its the most insulting thing ever, it shouldnt be, it is direspectful to someone to come to a dungeon without knowing anything and ask a non mentor person to explain them the mechanics, i would be fine if they didnt say anything at all or ask for help and not care about me saying watch a guide, my problem is the mentality that someone saying watch a guide is disrespectful. because i dont understand why that would be

I mean, it wouldn’t take you hardly any time to explain a core mechanic in a place like a dungeon—take Qarn’s first boss as an example.

“Anything I need to watch out for?”
“When you get Doom, step on the glowing platform. It changes every few seconds, so just watch out for that.”
“Oh, and kill the Wespe adds that spawn.”

That’s not hard to do.

Telling someone to watch a guide for a piece of 4-man content is extremely unhelpful and just avoiding the question—which some do consider to be quite rude. Mentor or no, that doesn’t mean that you are excused from not helping if someone actually bothers to ask. Personally, I’m thrilled when someone speaks up and asks if they need to know something. So many players would much rather run in blind and blame the healers for failing to save them from mechanics they repeatedly screw up over asking “Hey, is there anything major I should watch out for?”.

[DumdogsWorld]

To be fair, if you are quiet and say nothing despite not knowing how to do a mechanic, how are people supposed to know to help you?

I'm not entirely sure why everybody is nitpicking the things that I'm saying. I'm not telling anybody to look at guides, nor am I telling people to explain mechanics. I was simply relaying my experiences. I feel a 'peace of mind' feeling by memorizing the mechanics before I even enter the dungeon. I'll gladly take 10 or 15 minutes before my queue to read up if it means a smoother run without burdening the party.

If people want to argue with me about that, then I don't know what to tell them....

[TalosEscher]

I'm not entirely sure why everybody is nitpicking the things that I'm saying. I'm not telling anybody to look at guides, nor am I telling people to explain mechanics. I was simply relaying my experiences. I feel a 'peace of mind' feeling by memorizing the mechanics before I even enter the dungeon. I'll gladly take 10 or 15 minutes before my queue to read up if it means a smoother run without burdening the party.

If people want to argue with me about that, then I don't know what to tell them....

you are fine, you are being a good person to focusing on efficiency and not giving other people problem over things you can do something about, you are the type of person we need, those that care.

[NessaWyvern]

Which just takes 5 seconds to type to inform the healer if they were new.

Why the healer specifically? In this dungeon, unlike other dooms, you stand on the glowing platform to remove the doom.

[Alucard135]

I was speaking from my own perspective, back when I was new to that dungeon. What if I go into a dungeon and nobody bothers to explain it to me? I tend to be rather quiet, so I'm probably not going to ask the party for an explanation.

Honestly, it's just more reliable for me to Google it. That's how I choose to conduct myself. In no way do I expect you to feel the same way.

Why the healer specifically? In this dungeon, unlike other dooms, you stand on the glowing platform to remove the doom.

My bad, I was thinking of Wanderer's Place hard, where the doom needs to be fully healed to be removed.

[Bryan_Weary1]

There are guides that literally tell you how to conduct the entire run/fight, down to the smallest detail. I, personally, don't care for those kinds of guides. My main reason for going to guides for information is to know which mechanics can be problematic and how to pass said mechanics.

Take, for example, Sunken Temple of Qarn (normal). The doom mechanic is nice to know about in advance.

Would have helped me last night. I generally skim a guide prior to going into a dungeon for the first time...skimmed right over that part when I looked up Qarn. A big thank you to those that put up with me on that one, and for helping me understand the rest as well. Finished the rest of the dungeon with no issues.