watch a guide, you are not gonna die

[HyoMinPark]

i am petty and complaining about people asking for help while not watching a guide for non savage content, because thats what i did until the very end of heavensward and expect nothing less from others

So you're telling me that you expect players to watch guides for things like dungeons? The easiest content in the game that can be brute forced more times than not? That's silly. Most bosses have one major thing to look out for, and it doesn't take hardly any time to just say "Watch out for X" if someone asks.

Guides aren't needed for non-Savage content. But at least you admit that you're being petty.

[TalosEscher]

So you're telling me that you expect players to watch guides for things like dungeons? The easiest content in the game that can be brute forced more times than not? That's silly. Most bosses have one major thing to look out for, and it doesn't take hardly any time to just say "Watch out for X" if someone asks.

Guides aren't needed for non-Savage content. But at least you admit that you're being petty.

yeah i am, it annoys me so im talking about it in public

[HyoMinPark]

yeah i am, it annoys me so im talking about it in public

Keep on digging your petty hole, OP. It’s not really helping your argument.

[TalosEscher]

Keep on digging your petty hole, OP. It’s not really helping your argument.

i dont care, if i get people to agree with me im happy

[HyoMinPark]

i dont care, if i get people to agree with me im happy

Clearly, there are people who don’t agree that players should watch guides for dungeons. I’ve never watched a guide for anything below a Savage level. Because they aren’t necessary.

If someone asks about a dungeon mechanic, take 10 seconds out of your day to tell them how it’s done. I promise you it’s not hard. And it’s far more helpful than demanding they watch a 10 minute guide for something you can explain in 10 seconds.

I'm not entirely sure why everybody is nitpicking the things that I'm saying. I'm not telling anybody to look at guides, nor am I telling people to explain mechanics. I was simply relaying my experiences. I feel a 'peace of mind' feeling by memorizing the mechanics before I even enter the dungeon. I'll gladly take 10 or 15 minutes before my queue to read up if it means a smoother run without burdening the party.

If people want to argue with me about that, then I don't know what to tell them....

I’m not arguing with anything. If you want to watch a guide for a dungeon, you do you. Can’t stop you.

I’m just pointing out, if you stay quiet, how would you expect people to provide you any help that you may need? Especially since you made note to point out “what if no one bothered to explain it to me”. Consider that.

[TalosEscher]

[QUOTE=HyoMinPark;4984684]Clearly, there are people who don’t agree that players should watch guides for dungeons. I’ve never watched a guide for anything below a Savage level. Because they aren’t necessary.


but there are people that do, and if its not necessary for non savage content why do people annoy others asking for help, when they arent mentors or anything? if its so irrelevant they shouldnt ask for help anyway

[Cheremia]

I don't expect people to watch guides.
I will not watch guides.

Guides do not even help me since i'm learning by doing.

I try to explain the most important mechanics in a dungeon or normal trial.
Extreme i go into learning parties.

In farmparties, you should not be if you don't know.


The end

[HyoMinPark]

but there are people that do, and if its not necessary for non savage content why do people annoy others asking for help, when they arent mentors or anything? if its so irrelevant they shouldnt ask for help anyway

There’s this thing called “learning”—some of the players you encounter are new players that aren’t familiar with certain mechanics. If they ask for clarification—or if they ask “anything of note I should watch out for”—that is them trying to learn. Why not help them by telling them what they have to look out for? Is that hard? I suppose so.

Dungeons aren’t Savage where a mistake can easily lead to a snowball into a wipe. If you were discussing Savage, I would be far more sympathetic with your ranting. But you’re discussing dungeons. Easy content or not, why are you trying to discourage people from asking for help?

It’s no wonder so many new players feel hesitant to ask for help when they’re met with players like yourself who want to shirk questions with “Watch a YouTube video”.