1.20a tomorrow :D

[AdvancedWind]

You sir are wrong.

Example of one
Light Shot
Optimal Level : 1
Delivers a ranged atack

Also, there are 4 more that are avaliable cross class to any class, that I can think of off the top of my head, I would have to log in game to check if there are more.

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Light Shot is the archer regular shot, it doesn't really count. All the other skills you are looking for are likely old Guild Mark abilities, those have either been removed or became weaponskills.

[Coglin]

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Light Shot is the archer regular shot, it doesn't really count. All the other skills you are looking for are likely old Guild Mark abilities, those have either been removed or became weaponskills.

Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa, how dose is not count ? It initiated battle with no training point cost, and its on a DoW. That fits the 2 pre-req of the debate in which you and another garunteed previously do not exist. I also know for a fact that I have 4, none TP requiring abilitied avaliable to my PGL, MRD, and GLD, that are initial attacks.

No sir, I am not mistaken, Nothing I refere to is "most likely" guildmarks or anything else.

Perhaps some folks need to get in game and use some of the abilities , check out some of what crosses classes, and learn the system a little more, before attempting to educate the community. At this point all thats occuring is the purpetuation of misinformation.

[AdvancedWind]

Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa, how dose is not count ? It initiated battle with no training point cost, and its on a DoW. That fits the 2 pre-req of the debate in which you and another garunteed previously do not exist. I also know for a fact that I have 4, none TP requiring abilitied avaliable to my PGL, MRD, and GLD, that are initial attacks.

No sir, I am not mistaken, Nothing I refere to is "most likely" guildmarks or anything else.

Perhaps some folks need to get in game and use some of the abilities , check out some of what crosses classes, and learn the system a little more, before attempting to educate the community. At this point all thats occuring is the purpetuation of misinformation.

Wow.

You did not actually get the point she was trying to make, and is trying to claim the existance of stuff like Throw completely puts her point apart, which it doesn't.

I, too, disagree with her views, but at the damn least I understand her.

Let me make it clear for you, on her behalf then:

There are no free offensive melee abilities on this game, that both require no TP or consumables (cooldown only skills) and therefore making combat "worse" and "less interactive". Light shot is, for all intent and purposes, the archer's regular attack, it doesn't count. Throwing Javelins, axes, stones and the like also doesn't, as they are ranged moves that require consumables.

Stop making assumptions over someone else's opnions when you didn't even understand it, stop being overly agressive, and stop assuming others do not play the game.