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    Quote Originally Posted by Scherwiz View Post
    WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON?!
    Not even I know anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AdvancedWind View Post
    Not even I know anymore.
    I think we finally agree. >.<

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scherwiz View Post
    WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON?!
    Well basically Rowyne and Advancedwind swore, garunteed, and promised us that there were no abilities in this game that cost 0-Tp that could be used to initiate a battle with a mob.

    Some of use explained to them that these were:

    Thunder (level 1)
    Stone Ilevel 1)
    Aero (level 4)
    Fire (level10)
    FLash (level 14)
    Provoke (level 14)
    Taunt (level 42)

    then they started blathering and spewing some other crap trying to deflect the fact that they were proven 100% grade A, wrong. So know they are making some unintelligent attempt to skirt there afore mentioned incorrectness by making some irational issue as to how the debate should all of the sudden exclude some of the abilities because of the physical and elemental nature of the attacks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coglin View Post
    Well basically Rowyne and Advancedwind swore, garunteed, and promised us that there were no abilities in this game that cost 0-Tp that could be used to initiate a battle with a mob.
    In my humble defense: I was just pointing out what she meant when she said that. In fact, I also disagree with almost everything she has posted thus far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coglin View Post
    Well basically Rowyne and Advancedwind swore, garunteed, and promised us that there were no abilities in this game that cost 0-Tp that could be used to initiate a battle with a mob.
    Oh, good lord.

    Quote Originally Posted by Coglin View Post
    Some of use explained to them that these were:

    Thunder (level 1)
    Stone Ilevel 1)
    Aero (level 4)
    Fire (level10)
    FLash (level 14)
    Provoke (level 14)
    Taunt (level 42)
    The point was that melee classes no longer received their own resource-free melee attack abilities with which to initiate combat. The first four you listed are spells (and aside from the fact that they obviously aren't melee abilities, they cost MP), the last three aren't attacks so much as aggro-generating abilities (the last of which you don't even get until level 42).

    Quote Originally Posted by Coglin View Post
    then they started blathering and spewing some other crap trying to deflect the fact that they were proven 100% grade A, wrong. So know they are making some unintelligent attempt to skirt there afore mentioned incorrectness by making some irational issue as to how the debate should all of the sudden exclude some of the abilities because of the physical and elemental nature of the attacks.
    I mentioned ranged because you were SO sure that the Archer-exclusive Light Shot should count, when it is a ranged attack that can't be cross-classed.

    By the way, you might want to double check the spelling, grammar, and insults before you go tossing the word 'unintelligent' around. At this point, you're a little too desperate to be right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rowyne View Post
    By the way, you might want to double check the spelling, grammar, and insults before you go tossing the word 'unintelligent' around. At this point, you're a little too desperate to be right.
    Well, I never claimed to be a typist, your the only one making "claims" here. I am a design and production engineer, I have people like you to type and spellcheck for me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rowyne View Post
    I mentioned ranged because you were SO sure that the Archer-exclusive Light Shot should count, when it is a ranged attack that can't be cross-classed.
    Again with the back peddling. You specifically claimed ther were no 0-TP attacks to initiate combat. You were wrong, this is a prime example. You smoke blowing exclusions were not part of your challenge for me to post an ability fiting your 2 and only 2 requirements. You never claimed it i display one that was cross class (although I posted 7 others that were) nor did you specify its range. Range being irrelavent because you can use it at 0 yalms or 25 yalms and everywhere in between. SO if by melee you mean close range physical attack, then pierce damage at 0 yalms is exactly that.

    Several people have demonstrated how you have posted incorrect information, misinformation, or well, just lied. Every time instead of saying, oh, I didn't think of that. You make some bull crap reason you try to skirt the issue by changing criteria are some other form of evasion.
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    Almost forgot, mere hours away from 1.20a (grabs some popcorn and waits)
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    Page 1 and Page 2 of this thread promised boobs.
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    This thread ie irrelevent, the patch is not tomorow!

    rabble rabble rabble

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    This thread ie irrelevent, the patch is not tomorow!

    rabble rabble rabble
    Lol right, now it's today
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