Please no more Eureka!

[Kalise]

First, you could easily create an explanation of why another zone has disturbed aether, justifying the elemental level. Second, you could make quests that rewards magicite aside from their basic reward for people to catch up their Magia Board. Finally, it would be easy to include something in ShadowBringers, explaining that you could gain elemental XP (up to level 60), every time you gain regular Xp, allowing for everyone to catch up without having to set foot in Eureka.

For me, there's really no point in creating another type of leveling (Which I'm fairly confident the next exploration will have), if you can simply expand on an existing one. And FFXIV is the King of catch-up mechanics

Except the fact that if the Elemental Weapon retains use in this new "Eureka" content then people will see that as a "You NEED Elemental Weapon" because it will be BiS for grinding through the new content.

So, either Eureka would be considered mandatory because you need to grind out your full Relic before you start doing the new "Eureka" (Especially if people start being people and only party with players whom have Eureka relics), or you implement a catch up mechanic that allows players to get a weapon on par with the full Eureka Relic and thus invalidate the Eureka relic back to being only useful for dead content and glamour (Which is the true end-game, as that's the only reason to have BiS gear unless you're weird like me and run content for the content >.>)

This would be the case if they continued to use many of the same systems as Eureka. To say nothing about farming Logos actions, the additional Magia board unlocks (Unless they don't stack with the new "Catch-up" ones).

Basically, if they don't let the system go to waste, it's quite likely that it will have detrimental effects such as making people need to clear Eureka before they can even start participating in new "Eureka"

[Reynhart]

So, either Eureka would be considered mandatory because you need to grind out your full Relic before you start doing the new "Eureka" (Especially if people start being people and only party with players whom have Eureka relics)

Sure, as mandatory as being max level in any Eureka zone because no one in their right mind would ever invite in their party someone who is 10 levels below and thus, so mathematically considerably weaker, right ?

At this point, I'm starting to think we've played Eureka in two parrallel universes, because every situation you describe is the complete opposite of what I've experienced in this content.


And it's really time this community starts to learn the difference between "best" and "mandatory" because FFXIV already has a mathematically best gear, and neither the Duty Finder nor the Party Finder exploded because of that.

[Physic]

Sure, as mandatory as being max level in any Eureka zone because no one in their right mind would ever invite in their party someone who is 10 levels below and thus, so mathematically considerably weaker, right ?

At this point, I'm starting to think we've played Eureka in two parrallel universes, because every situation you describe is the complete opposite of what I've experienced in this content.


And it's really time this community starts to learn the difference between "best" and "mandatory" because FFXIV already has a mathematically best gear, and neither the Duty Finder nor the Party Finder exploded because of that.

they will not continue with eureka, what they mention is fairly accurate.

either they give everyone everything you get by the end of eureka easily, or they can't do it. And if they give people all that stuff easily, its basically the same as starting from scratch, except for logograms i guess, because those are gameplay tools.

But they could just keep logograms in that case.


the eureka like content is most likely to start new.

[alexander_morys]

Relics can burn for all I care, it's a endgame thing for those that really want to do the hardest raids in the game.

If that was all there were to it, then fine, but I'm a old fan of Final Fantasy who plays the game for the lore, plot and story, and I am really angry they put on something so important behind a relic quest, I mean, it explains why a freaking Island/continent disappeared from the planet, WHAT THE HELL MAN!??

[Araxes]

Relics can burn for all I care, it's a endgame thing for those that really want to do the hardest raids in the game.

Only problem with Relics is that they are irellevant at the time they become available. Its like in FF15. you get the strongest Weapons AFTER you actually need them. Kinda meh.

[Reynhart]

they will not continue with eureka, what they mention is fairly accurate.

You don't need to be in Eureka to reuse the Elemental level or the magia board. And you can rename every "Eureka" effects to "Elemental" effects if you wish to activate them elsewhere.

The only thing mandatory to finish Eureka is elvl 60, and that would be easily doable if you could reach that elevel outside of Eureka. Everything else is completely optionnal.
Complains in this thread specifically pointed out how Eureka gear can be completely skipped, and lvl80 regular gear will most likely be enough to kill anything, like lvl70 regular gear is to complete Eureka.

Also, keep in mind that finishing PoTD story is mandatory to enter HoH, so they don't really shy from bonding two content of the same type, even if they don't have to be related.

and I am really angry they put on something so important behind a relic quest, I mean, it explains why a freaking Island/continent disappeared from the planet, WHAT THE HELL MAN!??

They put the story behind the leveling process, not behind the relic. You can reach the end without touching your weapon or armor.