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    Nedkel's Avatar
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    Chloe Lehideux
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    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 74
    Quote Originally Posted by MariaArvana View Post
    And it caused major complaints as a result, and turned off many new players from even reaching that point in the story to actually try the jobs that were promoted and tag-lined in HW marketing, so to rectify this they moved RDM & SAM to Ul'dah because they learned their mistake. I seriously doubt they'd undo their correction to a mistake. They can't make money if the players who'd be interested in playing GnB leave the game due to impractical placement of the job's unlock area.

    Square has learned that having easy access to the biggest market materials of an expansion does a lot better for player retention than sticking it behind (arguably pointless) out of the way unlock conditions. If they stick it in gridania with lvl 60 being the only requirment (maybe lvl 50 story quest completed as well), it'd be easy for a new player to chug a story + lvl 60 pot, unlock GnB and play the job they wanted to for the rest of the MSQ.
    Quote Originally Posted by kikix12 View Post
    But one and the other have nothing to do with each other. There are tons of games where you need an expansion to play a class that you start at level one. Basically...every single paid MMO out there without multi-class system.

    Requiring expansion to use its classes is nothing new at all. Heavensward had in its own locations, yes, but they said that they learned from that when people complained about having to do all that quest grinding for a lvl30 job. And they followed through with that claim in Stormblood. There really is no money for them in doing it more difficult.
    They may know or they may forgot, no one know.
    They still havent touched the worst thing in the game, and that is msq grind with countless number of fetch quests, which puts off most of the newcomers from the game, and they still selling the story skip for those not willing to get it all completed.
    Never overestimate the company, they are always greedy, they could just tell that tanks are not for newbies and they should learn the game first before playing it.

    Quote Originally Posted by kikix12 View Post
    Anyway, I won't continue discussing this with you. If you cannot even understand the difference between someone wanting something to be different from a person saying that it's like that...then it's a waste of time.
    At least answer my question.
    Does SE make this new job for newcomers or for people already playing the game, which are familiar with all basics around this game?
    If the answer is, yes they are making for the veterans, then there is the reason why they decided to make it lvl 60 job, instead of lvl 1. There is no need to make it lvl 1, because people dont have to learn and it will annoy them.
    Imagine the outcry if they somehow make it starting at lvl 1, there would be more people complaining about this alone than about the job being locked behind stuff for newbies, who barely even understand what classes are for what.
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    Last edited by Nedkel; 02-12-2019 at 11:52 AM.