Quote Originally Posted by Nedkel View Post
Because money is what SE wants, so i will not be surprised at all if they will put the quest giver in new location so everyone has to grind MSQ all the way to shadowbringers and have all 4 expansions.
But one and the other have nothing to do with each other. There are tons of games where you need an expansion to play a class that you start at level one. Basically...every single paid MMO out there without multi-class system.

Requiring expansion to use its classes is nothing new at all. Heavensward had in its own locations, yes, but they said that they learned from that when people complained about having to do all that quest grinding for a lvl30 job. And they followed through with that claim in Stormblood. There really is no money for them in doing it more difficult.

Quote Originally Posted by Nedkel View Post
You didnt understand my point, even with the SB there are requirements to meet for springs to access the new jobs. So you have to go through all the 2.0 in order to unlock the samurai or ninja.
You don't get my point at all. What I'm saying is that THERE SHOULD NOT BE any such requirements. The only reason why there are is because Square Enix doesn't want to make a full quest line for each job they add from lvl1 to whatever is the new cap. There is no practical or business reason besides that. There are reasons why to make classes at lvl1. It will entice more players to play the game if they won't have to drudge through dozens of hours of quests on something they don't enjoy. But that's hard to measure and may not make up for the money needed for all the "legacy" support for classes. It's just easier to tell new players "Screw you, we don't care about you so deal with it." than actually give them something new.

Quote Originally Posted by Nedkel View Post
New job will definitely not be played by them, so what is the point to make them running duties, which barely anyone does anymore?
New jobs will not be played by new players that start from level 1 if they will be available from level 1?!...Huh?! I may be missing something here, I do have a fever after all, but that have no sense to me.

New players also very much do the low level duties. To allow them to do them is the very reason why leveling roulette is there.

Quote Originally Posted by Nedkel View Post
Sure they could make them available from lvl 1 as you said, but what for? New content is being sold to the players already playing, so this job is made for them primary, not for newcomers.
Do you seriously think that people buy A Realm Reborn, then once they finished it Heavensward, then after finishing THAT Stormblood then after finishing that Shadowbringers?! That's not even possible. Only the newest expansion is sold with all the former ones packed into it. New players either will have A Realm Reborn only or the complete game at the time of purchase.


Anyway, I won't continue discussing this with you. If you cannot even understand the difference between someone wanting something to be different from a person saying that it's like that...then it's a waste of time.