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    Quote Originally Posted by kikix12 View Post
    Neither Paladin nor Dark Knight are magic knights. The brunt of their attacks are still physical and the stat for damage is still strength. Their armors are still physical as well.
    They are magic knights.

    It sounds like you want a full on caster tank, which is understandable. But Paladin and Dark Knight are the very images of magic knights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    They are magic knights.

    It sounds like you want a full on caster tank, which is understandable. But Paladin and Dark Knight are the very images of magic knights.
    Eh...no. They are knights with a little bit of supplementary magic. Lore-wise Dark Knight does not even use magic AT ALL. He uses the darkness that dwells within him.

    As I said, Paladins are as much magic knights as this iteration of Red Mage is a melee job. A proper magic knight would use magic-enchanted sword to deal damage with possibly using spells straight out here or there (Rune Fencer/Spellblade etc.).

    Yes, I want a straight out caster tank. But that does have little to do with how Paladins in this game are not magic knights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kikix12 View Post
    Eh...no. They are knights with a little bit of supplementary magic. Lore-wise Dark Knight does not even use magic AT ALL. He uses the darkness that dwells within him.

    As I said, Paladins are as much magic knights as this iteration of Red Mage is a melee job. A proper magic knight would use magic-enchanted sword to deal damage with possibly using spells straight out here or there (Rune Fencer/Spellblade etc.).

    Yes, I want a straight out caster tank. But that does have little to do with how Paladins in this game are not magic knights.
    Agreed. Caster tanks aren't "tin cans that can use some magical protections", caster tanks are actual casters (usually in light armour) who rely on int/dex and spells to protect them. SWtOR did caster tanks right with shadows/assassins.

    I think it'd be fun to see what XIV could do with that, if they decided to break the mold. Maybe GUN is a step towards it, if they wear medium armour. We'll see, I guess (I'm not expecting much, but it looks fun enough to try.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    ...full on caster tank...
    That may be interesting. Hit, aggro, damage reduction, and cc all done on (very short range?) casting magic.
    For a new tank class, it is really interesting.
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