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    Wait, so mystic knight is basically what the whole Vivi + Steiner combo is all about in FFIX without the separate caster part?

    Now that would make an interesting healer, possibly adding healing-by-damage and/or melee-healing to the current healer option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by linay View Post
    Wait, so mystic knight is basically what the whole Vivi + Steiner combo is all about in FFIX without the separate caster part?

    Now that would make an interesting healer, possibly adding healing-by-damage and/or melee-healing to the current healer option.
    That would be steiners one eye girlfriend she did it without a caster

    As did rune knight in ff11
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    Quote Originally Posted by MorbolvampireQueen6 View Post
    That would be steiners one eye girlfriend she did it without a caster

    As did rune knight in ff11
    The irony being that Beatrix is a Paladin, and I think this topic came about by comparing Paladins to Mystic Knights. I guess we've come full circle, huh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eloah View Post
    The irony being that Beatrix is a Paladin, and I think this topic came about by comparing Paladins to Mystic Knights. I guess we've come full circle, huh?
    More specifically, this whole thing came about because of a couple people saying PLD and DRK aren’t real magic knights and we need a mystic Knight to get a real magic knight. Which is just ridiculous.

    DRK is a magic knight.
    It uses MP, to cast magic spells, that deal magic damage.
    It also hits stuff with its sword.
    (This whole “It’s not magic it’s ‘the darkness within’” stuff is nonsense, it’s still magic, just like Black Magic is fuelled by your own aether, it doesn’t matter where that MP is coming from, the end product is magic)

    PLD is also a magic knight.
    It hits stuff with its sword for its main combo, and has a shield bash, but everything else it does is magic spells that deal magic damage or heal/shield.

    And guess what, Mystic Knight is also a magic knight.
    They are all knight based classes that use magic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MorbolvampireQueen6 View Post
    That would be steiners one eye girlfriend she did it without a caster

    As did rune knight in ff11
    Oh, I thought Steiner's girlfriend was a paladin.
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    Humm Kinda mixed on this...

    Healer sure need a new job.

    But, being a BRD/DNC is one of my secret roleplaying dream and I profundly hate playing heal in any game I ever played, even when I choose a heal class/job I'd rather play it DPS and be useless with it but have fun.

    I would love to play a full on artistic DPS singing and dancing on my ennemies corpses rather than choosing between my bow or being the scapegoat/"why can't you heal the dps stanced tank pulling half the dungeon while putting huge dps number"/boring babysitter job that could be fun if not for the fact your not here to have fun but heal retarded blind dps.

    So, I'll be very very glad its a DpS, disapointed if its a heal but thats all, I'll just wont playing it at all and continue my song only carreer.

    Just like I think DRK look cool but don't bother touching it cause I feel like tanking is boring as hell or astrologian that look kinda cool too and I love healers gear most of the time but its a heal-job soooo heck no.
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    Quote Originally Posted by linay View Post
    Oh, I thought Steiner's girlfriend was a paladin.
    She wasn't a paladin she was q rune knight .. paladins do not use seal abilitys


    Since ppl cant understand the differences obviously


    Paladins only use holy magic period just heal,rez, and swords basicly

    A rune knight uses seals and all magic times as enchants on the blade


    You should made yourself obviouse thinking she is a paladin


    A mystic knight uses en,bar, and spike rotation with large barrier type moves.


    A dark knight only uses dark magic period along with mele
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    Quote Originally Posted by MorbolvampireQueen6 View Post
    She wasn't a paladin she was q rune knight .. paladins do not use seal abilitys


    Since ppl cant understand the differences obviously


    Paladins only use holy magic period just heal,rez, and swords basicly

    A rune knight uses seals and all magic times as enchants on the blade


    You should made yourself obviouse thinking she is a paladin


    A mystic knight uses en,bar, and spike rotation with large barrier type moves.


    A dark knight only uses dark magic period along with mele
    Wait where are you getting that info? She is a Paladin, it's stated in IX that she is.

    Also, any job can do anything if the developers wish it. Based on what you wrote, i'm not sure if you we're being sarcastic or not, since you listed a " rotationç that looks very XI-ish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MorbolvampireQueen6 View Post
    She wasn't a paladin she was q rune knight .. paladins do not use seal abilitys


    Since ppl cant understand the differences obviously


    Paladins only use holy magic period just heal,rez, and swords basicly

    A rune knight uses seals and all magic times as enchants on the blade


    You should made yourself obviouse thinking she is a paladin


    A mystic knight uses en,bar, and spike rotation with large barrier type moves.


    A dark knight only uses dark magic period along with mele
    Apparently Beatrix uses a combination of some white magic, including a healing spell, a resurrection spell, and the Holy spell, as well as some of Steiner's sword arts, which deal thunder, non-elemental, or physical damage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by linay View Post
    Apparently Beatrix uses a combination of some white magic, including a healing spell, a resurrection spell, and the Holy spell, as well as some of Steiner's sword arts, which deal thunder, non-elemental, or physical damage.
    Beatrix was just a hybrid in that she had a tailored toolkit taken from categories of skills already used by other characters. Selection of White Magic from Dagger and Eiko, and a few Sword Art skills from Steiner. I mean there was nothing unique about Beatrix's kit other than Sword Art being called Seiken, which is pretty much the same thing. Beatrix had one Silence spell taken from WHM, doesn't make Dagger or Eiko Runic Knights though so not sure why the other person is so adamant things can only be one way in all FF games....

    Aside from it being confirmed Bea definitely was a Paladin in IX and the borrowed skill sets added to that, but we could say Steiner was a Runic Knight to some degree because he had a specific set for enchanting the blade with elemental energy (from Vivi) to use offensively.
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