SCH needs some nerfs

[Dualgunner]

I also see you're not even a WHM or healer main so I don't know why you're here when it's very obvious you don't know what you're talking about.

Check past page one of FFLogs. Not everyone's done everything in Alphascape. (Check Sigmascape Savage)

[MoroMurasaki]

Typical below average player trying to give their opinion on what's OP and what's not. The fact that you're mainly complaining about SCH and not AST is big yikes my dude. All your arguments are so bad. SCH and AST are very fleshed out classes compared to WHM, that is why they are so good. You could remove Chain Strat but that would just make AST the most broken being 500+ rDPS ahead of the other healers at all times. The reason you're even in this thread is becasue WHM is so bad but that's because SE did a poor job designing them at SB. 3/4 of their new skills were horrible at launch but because they fixed Benison so now it's just Lily's and Planery that are bad. DB is meh with a SCH because a SCHs fairy can handle most single target damage so it's just there. Not to mention compared with Tetra and Bene it's just kinda overkill. Thin Air is the best skill they got but it's pretty useless in most fights as you won't reach the point where you'll really need it.

So literally 3/4 or (4/4 skills with a SCH) are pretty bad. Compare that to SCH and AST kits for Stormblood, which are all very well designed and meshed with their old kits well, then you're probably pretty salty as the four skills AST and SCHs got during Stormblood are very useful.

Stop complaining that SCHs and ASTs are OP or broken because they aren't. They're only OP or broken when you compare it to WHM which is in the gutter right now and that's SE fault. Start complaining to them to actually fix your bad job. Tell them to increase your pDPS, tell them to make Planery last 30 or more seconds, tell them to fix lilys so they proc off regens/benison and not single target heals that you DON'T USE or just scrap lily's and make a new mechanic, tell them to fix Asylum because it's archaic design makes it a very very worse Collective Unconcious. Having to stand in one spot for a regen is such a bad design. Tell them to increase the healing done with Assize. But don't go whining other jobs are broken because your job is broken fundamentally.

I also see you're not even a WHM or healer main so I don't know why you're here when it's very obvious you don't know what you're talking about.

Thank you for giving me a laugh this morning, the SCH salt at being called out is strong.

If you think AST is the bigger threat to WHM you have a lot to learn and I wish you the best in that fictional world you're living in.

Perhaps address the actual SCH criticism instead of pointing the finger at AST which is perhaps the only healer balanced properly for Alphascape? Maybe spend a little less time determining the validity of my arguments via my logs (while being the actual meme elitist, suuuuuper glad we are giving people that complain about that more ammo btw -_-; ) and more actually thinking about what's being said.

I agree WHM is weak this tier. WHM being weak isn't changing the fact that SCH is too strong though. Look at tank clear rates. WAR and PLD are quite high and close and then DRK is abysmally (lolpun) behind. If it were really a situation similar to that with SCH and AST being fine and WHM being weak as the main issue our clear rates would look like that. They dont, they're split more than 40% SCH with WHM and AST being much closer than AST and SCH.

Give me some more salt to read on my lunch by break, guys!

[technole]

Stop complaining that SCHs and ASTs are OP or broken because they aren't. They're only OP or broken when you compare it to WHM which is in the gutter right now and that's SE fault. Start complaining to them to actually fix your bad job. Tell them to increase your pDPS, tell them to make Planery last 30 or more seconds, tell them to fix lilys so they proc off regens/benison and not single target heals that you DON'T USE or just scrap lily's and make a new mechanic, tell them to fix Asylum because it's archaic design makes it a very very worse Collective Unconcious. Having to stand in one spot for a regen is such a bad design. Tell them to increase the healing done with Assize. But don't go whining other jobs are broken because your job is broken fundamentally.

I also see you're not even a WHM or healer main so I don't know why you're here when it's very obvious you don't know what you're talking about.

Yeah, Scholar and Astro are considered "OP" compared to White Mage. It's better to improve White Mage at this point because of it's controversial skill set that was given in Stormblood. No one will disagree that White Mage could use some rethinking of it's job skill gauge and lilies going forward. Asylum was good in HW because it gave the job a bubble regeneration when the other two jobs have one and it was obvious were trying to find ways to make the WHM/AST combo potent, it just took almost two raid tiers to figure that out to the point they threw everything they could to Noct Astro to make it more than just viable. Either cut down the Asylum cooldown and/or make it more powerful to want to define raiding strategy around, it's too weak in it's current form with all the movement required in Omega.

Being at the end of the expansion, and possibly another healer coming into the mix, one can only hope going forward they'll re-define The Balance (pun intended)

There's nothing new on official forums about people not even knowing what they're talking about but crying for absurd nerf/rebalance without understanding what they're blaming, especially about healers.

It's typical, many of us have been here for years, and there is usually an agenda. What makes the OF good is you have people who play the jobs casually, to end-game raiding, even all the way to optimization.