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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilan View Post
    And i'm pretty sure that your memories betray you and here is the reason: The longer you play the better you learn how to play mechanics and your general skill with your class improves. I would say if you would've to play that fight again you would say its easy.

    Honestly i don't understand the fuzz about these earrings. They are earrings which means that most people won't notice them or even care. Also why don't you just enjoy that you've got them 5 or 6 years before all the others or enjoy them because you like them? Nope it HAS to stay unavailable because people want to show that they are supperior because they have earrings (lol) which are not obtainable anymore. Feels pretty petty to me.
    The game was legitimately much harder pre-re-release.
    Also, you shoudn't diminish a trophy simply because they're earrings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    The game was legitimately much harder pre-re-release.
    Also, you shoudn't diminish a trophy simply because they're earrings.
    There are so many worthless trophies because SE decided that everyone should be able to get them. Who cares about that? These things have been exclusive for over a half decade i think thats enough...not that i care about them in any way.

    Oh i'm pretty sure it was much much much much much harder alone because of the lag...but we won't find out anymore if its just the imagination (yes memories can be a bi...) of the legacy players or if it is a fact.
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    Good talk, all. Glad we had it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilan View Post
    There are so many worthless trophies because SE decided that everyone should be able to get them. Who cares about that? These things have been exclusive for over a half decade i think thats enough...not that i care about them in any way.

    Oh i'm pretty sure it was much much much much much harder alone because of the lag...but we won't find out anymore if its just the imagination (yes memories can be a bi...) of the legacy players or if it is a fact.
    Lag certainly played a part, but the game was operationally different back then.
    And at no point has SE given raid rewards out for a seasonal event. In five years from now would you be okay with them handing out Ultimate Bahamut weapons?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Lag certainly played a part, but the game was operationally different back then.
    And at no point has SE given raid rewards out for a seasonal event. In five years from now would you be okay with them handing out Ultimate Bahamut weapons?
    If there is a 6.0 and we are level 90 unsync it will be pretty much the same thing and would anyone really care about those weapons at that point?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rita1989 View Post
    If there is a 6.0 and we are level 90 unsync it will be pretty much the same thing and would anyone really care about those weapons at that point?
    I don't do Ultimate and probably never will, but it shouldn't be unsyncable. It should be ilevel locked forever. The whole point of having Ultimate is for the people that want a challenge. It wouldn't make sense to ease something that exists solely to be hard. And it would make even less sense to just hand out the rewards from it to anybody.

    I don't care about getting White Ravens at all, but clearly some people who have them are bothered by it. I don't see the point in intentionally disrespecting those people. I think SE made a mistake in their choice of rewards for this event.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fawkes View Post
    I don't do Ultimate and probably never will, but it shouldn't be unsyncable. It should be ilevel locked forever. The whole point of having Ultimate is for the people that want a challenge. It wouldn't make sense to ease something that exists solely to be hard. And it would make even less sense to just hand out the rewards from it to anybody.

    I don't care about getting White Ravens at all, but clearly some people who have them are bothered by it. I don't see the point in intentionally disrespecting those people. I think SE made a mistake in their choice of rewards for this event.
    The issue about keeping it synced is that when they make jobs change from exp to exp it can kill job balance at an old cap and lets be honest no one is going to be going back to these fight 2 expansions from now.

    I mean anyone can have Ultimate rewards for $$$ and SE doesnt care.
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    Last edited by Rita1989; 08-23-2018 at 08:24 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fawkes View Post
    I don't do Ultimate and probably never will, but it shouldn't be unsyncable. It should be ilevel locked forever. The whole point of having Ultimate is for the people that want a challenge. It wouldn't make sense to ease something that exists solely to be hard. And it would make even less sense to just hand out the rewards from it to anybody.
    While that would be nice, any job changes made between 4.0 and 5.0 could potentially have detrimental effects on the respective performances in the content. For example, DRG, when synced down below level 60, can no longer keep BotD up naturally through their rotation—they have to actively hit the buff key at certain points. While not game breaking, it can mess with the flow. Plus, some jobs have been neutered pre-60 (and even pre-70 — e.g., MCH), that if similar changes and more skill pruning were made, they would have but a skeleton of a rotation (again, MCH is a prime example of this).

    I would not be surprised if they allow for Ultimate to be unsynced in 5.0, and I honestly expect that to be the case. Though, I still think it would be nice to take the content and rebalance it for level 80, I’m not going to expect it. As long as I get my clears prior to 5.0, what they do will have little to no effect on me short of thinking “it’s sad to think of what the content used to be like”. Though, it’s still challenging enough that, even at level 80, people who have no idea what they’re doing won’t get very far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    While that would be nice, any job changes made between 4.0 and 5.0 could potentially have detrimental effects on the respective performances in the content.
    A really good example is Coil Turn 10. There is a mechanic where you MUST shield 2 people at the same time. Back then you could do that with Stoneskin. But neither WHM nor Diurnal AST have access to shields on level 50 anymore...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Lag certainly played a part, but the game was operationally different back then.
    And at no point has SE given raid rewards out for a seasonal event. In five years from now would you be okay with them handing out Ultimate Bahamut weapons?
    Well sure this game here is not remotly hard if you do all the normal content.
    If i would still raid and would own one or more of this weapons? I would honestly not care because i enjoy the things i have i like how they look and so on, no matter if they are exclusiv or not. Its simply not who i am.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Good talk, all. Glad we had it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    In five years from now would you be okay with them handing out Ultimate Bahamut weapons?
    I'd be fine with it. After five years, the fight would be even more irrelevant than it already is. Whenever I see someone using a weapon or title from there I cannot guarantee that they are a respectable player. Not with the numerous advertisements in the party finder that direct people to Discord to discuss 'boosts' for the content in question. The Ultimate scene is infested with dirty money and account sharing...yet mysteriously the people up in arms about these earrings are very quiet when it comes to that particular issue.
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