White Raven earring given out at The Rising event 2018

[Luna-M]

Because there is nothing extra to say.

There are people who have it already and value it as a memento of a hard fight from a bygone era.

There are people with no strong feelings either way who just like to comment on things anyway.

And there are people who want it released to everyone so we can all have a copy of it in our armoire.

I mean.. I have the earrings on my legacy account. I did the fight, it was not so hard people claim it.
And I honestly don't care that a newer player get it.

Remember there is datamine hinting we get Nael fight again so does that make every salty legacy players happy? lol

[LalaRu]

On top of that, because an item got 5 YEARS AGO.

Them people got enough time to show off their preciousss treasssure. And now complaining here as the item was given out to us plebeans the day after.

At this point, just let them vent.

[Nixxe]

Explicity: The "content" would include what he dropped, it was the finale to 1.0 made for existing players before ARR.
Implicitly: If it wasn't part of that grouping they wouldn't have been missing for half a decade and dropped out of T9.

Neither of those are stretching the meaning. There's very few things that fall into that category regardless aside from unusable crafting materials. The old lodestone being dead and link re-directors no longer working makes it a headache. For all I know it was on the alpha forums. I would like to believe this was all someone dropping the ball but we're probably never going to hear of it.

That wasn't directed at yourself to be clear as well. Other people are though, maliciously, and should really take their own advice.

While I guess I can see why you'd interpret it the way you have, I really don't think that's the correct or best interpretation. An earring being obtainable wouldn't clash with the MSQ and earrings are not playable. Additionally, if SE released a content patch that was nothing but new appearances, you can bet people would be on the forums screaming about the lack of content because items generally aren't considered content. In contrast, a content patch that had several new trials, but offered no new items would be recognized as having content, but being unrewarding.

As far as the items not reappearing sooner, that could have happened for any number of reasons. While it's not SE, Blizzard made many item appearances unobtainable when they revamped the old world in Cataclysm. This wasn't done to make them exclusive or prestigious, but simply because they didn't fit into what Blizzard wanted to do and they didn't feel it was worth the effort to preserve them. This meant that for many years many of these items were exclusive to characters that had done certain content prior to the Cataclysm. Nonetheless, Blizzard has brought back some of those old models over time as they saw fit. For instance, a recent anniversary event saw the temporary return of some vanilla world bosses that had been casualties of the revamp scaled up to level cap with level cap versions of their old loot tables, which still used those old appearances. Items that had been unavailable for nearly a decade were suddenly made obtainable again because the unobtainability was incidental rather than deliberate.

Similarly, that post makes it sound like the encounter simply wouldn't fit into the framework of what they wanted to do (or needed to do, really) for 2.0. There were no doubt many items that became unobtainable after the Calamity occurred. I don't think it's unreasonable to see some of them pop back up as SE finds places they feel they fit, even if they were perhaps relatively rare in 1.0. I realize you're probably looking at the "only intended for 1.0" bit, but that honestly looks to me like a generic "we don't want to do this" response, in which it basically just restates the situation, but dressed up to look like an explanation.

[Dzian]

It is.

Beating a fight in the original version of a game that had to be shut down and relaunched is objectively not that big a deal. Especially when five years have passed since that point.

No it's not selfish at all. What it is, is fair.

It is not selfish to expect people to do the same things as everyone else to get the same rewards.

"So I um missed the 2012 Olympic games I wasn't in good health but can I please have some gold medals for all the events. I mean it's been over 5 years now and they are just games after all." Would that be right? Pretty sure a bunch of athletes would be pretty fuming if I got handed a bunch of gold medals without actually winning or even participating in the events

Is it selfish that I would expect someone to pass there driving test in order to get a license? No.

Is it selfish to expect students to complete uni if they want degrees? No

I mean I had to do these things and expecting others to have to do the same is apparently selfish. You really couldn't be more wrong.

The selfish people are really those who expect what everyone else has. Without putting in the effort to get it.

The people who say everyone should do The same thing if they want the same reward are not selfish they are fair...

[LyraKuroneko]

No it's not selfish at all. What it is, is fair.

It is not selfish to expect people to do the same things as everyone else to be true same rewards.

"So I um missed the 2012 Olympic games I wasn't in good health but can I please have some gold medals for all the events. I mean it's been over 5 years now and they are just games after all." Would that be right? Pretty sure a bunch of athletes would be pretty fuming if I got handed a bunch of gold medals without actually winning or even participating in the events

Is it selfish that I would expect someone to pass there driving test in order to get a license? No.

Is it selfish to expect students to complete uni if they want degrees? No

I mean I had to do these things and expecting others to have to do the same is apparently selfish. You really couldn't be more wrong.

The selfish people are really those who expect what everyone else has. Without putting in the effort to get it.

The people who say everyone should do The same thing if they want the same reward are not selfish they are fair...

We may have the said fight. So how is it different from what you're saying. Player will complete it, Get the reward, and that's it.

People need to calm down about this event... It's really getting ridiculous. Unstead of getting into a temper tantrum why not simply ask to get the item renamed? Simply that.

Do you want to show the community managers that we're kids? How do you expect to be listened to in any way after this?

I don't know. It could have simply gone like this :

Someone making a thread in the event part is there is one or here about the event, simpy requesting to change the name of the item, making it a replica

Because you treasure the memory of the fight and the time at that place.

Something like "could you please"

No need to add salt, simply making a simple request politly, you know...

[Fourbestintoner]

You still have your tattoo and pay less than me for your sub.

[LyraKuroneko]

You still have your tattoo and pay less than me for your sub.

And those are precisly what we were promised, with the chocobo and gobbue with the carpet, as exclusivity :x

[worldofneil]

You still have your tattoo and pay less than me for your sub.

There seems to be a lot of confusion about this.

To get the White Ravens you had to play in 1.0 and complete a specific fight.
Not all 1.0 players have a legacy account and only those who qualified for one have a Legacy Chocobo and the reduced subscription fee.
However, all 1.0 characters have a tattoo (confusing called the Legacy Mark).

So please can people stop mixing up Legacy accounts/reduced subscription fees with the White Ravens. They are not related.

[Amiral_Benson]

There is no maintenance left before the Rising for them to take into account all the Japanese, NA and EU feedback on this matter.

But since there's still a way to tell who cleared that fight 6 years ago through their Lodestone 6th Astral Era History Logs, they still have the opportunity to please everyone after the event, during a future maintenance.
They can rename all White Ravens to replicas, they did that countless times already, renaming an item, and then they can just put the original ones at the Calamity Salvager available to players with that 6th Astral Era database entry.

If really everyone who wanted them back, was to glamour them, they should not bother the name being a replica.

Then problem solved. Everyone's happy. Everyone's treated with enough due respect.

[ARR_]

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...805#post859805
Dev said this..
they think "it's not "ARR" it's StormBlood so is ok"...?