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    KaldeaSahaline's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by ko_ View Post
    Context is key tho. I know for a fact you wouldn't be too keen on some random coming to you in real life and flat out saying you are living your life wrong. I'm not saying advice giving is wrong but you cant come incorrect and expect them to correct themselves. Cause you're nothing but a stranger to them.
    I tried to find an old post I made, but couldn't.

    The premise is that I've had random people give advice to me. Like all advice/criticism you need to listen and evaluate regardless of context. Some of the most rewarding advice I've ever received professionally or in sports were from people that would make the average FF14 cry just by being in the same room as them.

    I play USTA tennis at a decently high competitive level. I once played this scumlord who was CLEARLY sandbagging his rating. He wasn't rude during the match or before/after, but he wasn't as friendly and talkative as most tennis players are. After he completely bodied me 6-1, 6-1 in less than an hour, he said "Your running forehand was really weak and easy to attack, work on it".

    I could have gotten upset or mad, etc, but instead I thought about what he said and he was right. I hadn't realized I lost nearly 14 points on a running forehand...

    In my career, one of my managers was probably the least people friendly person I ever met, but he was a professional genius. The sheer amount of expertise I was able to acquire from simply being around him and in meetings with has served me incredibly well. Had I ignored all of that because he was a dick, it would have left me a much worse/ill equipped professional than I am today.

    The point of this post is to say that ignored how feedback is given. Seriously who cares. Be an adult and evaluate it and if it makes sense, implement it.

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSeal View Post
    That is the point dear... Advice is welcome, positive and encouraged.
    Criticism is not! Just pointless and not appreciated by most of people.
    Like imagine in a working environment:
    Are you ok if colleague criticise you ? I doubt, probably an healthy advice to improve may be better . You can find people ( or colleagues) the criticise just to diminish you and others that give you advice to improve your OTE, l think we all prefer second kind of people to work with.
    Same concept applies in ffxiv
    Not sure how old you are or where you live, but in the real world of adults, criticism is one of the most important things in the world, and I ALWAYS accept it from anyone and everyone willing to give it. It makes me stronger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaldeaSahaline View Post
    I tried to find an old post I made, but couldn't.

    The premise is that I've had random people give advice to me. Like all advice/criticism you need to listen and evaluate regardless of context. Some of the most rewarding advice I've ever received professionally or in sports were from people that would make the average FF14 cry just by being in the same room as them.

    I play USTA tennis at a decently high competitive level. I once played this scumlord who was CLEARLY sandbagging his rating. He wasn't rude during the match or before/after, but he wasn't as friendly and talkative as most tennis players are. After he completely bodied me 6-1, 6-1 in less than an hour, he said "Your running forehand was really weak and easy to attack, work on it".

    I could have gotten upset or mad, etc, but instead I thought about what he said and he was right. I hadn't realized I lost nearly 14 points on a running forehand...

    In my career, one of my managers was probably the least people friendly person I ever met, but he was a professional genius. The sheer amount of expertise I was able to acquire from simply being around him and in meetings with has served me incredibly well. Had I ignored all of that because he was a dick, it would have left me a much worse/ill equipped professional than I am today.

    The point of this post is to say that ignored how feedback is given. Seriously who cares. Be an adult and evaluate it and if it makes sense, implement it.



    Not sure how old you are or where you live, but in the real world of adults, criticism is one of the most important things in the world, and I ALWAYS accept it from anyone and everyone willing to give it. It makes me stronger.
    But you should've ignored all the advice and tips if you didn't asked for it. Did you learn nothing from this thread?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Good talk, all. Glad we had it.
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