Light Farming, Sleepy Boys, and Camps

[Luin]

If you've hit cap at Pagos and are going for your 2nd relic you've probably realized that the real grind was never XP or Pagos Crystals, and is the Frosted Protean Crystals.

Contrast to Anemos which has so far been the fastest relic stage for acquiring subsequent relics, even disregarding the NM train, this light farm is leagues worse than the Zodiac or Anima light farm, even pre-nerf.

The main problem, from what I've experienced, and besides the actual Light droprate and quantity itself, is that the most efficient way of gaining Light, from what we currently know, is by killing Frozen Void Dragons.

And that's the problem. The current idea is to chain kill Frozen Void Dragons. Unfortunately, throughout the entire map of Pagos, there's only actually ONE spot where that's feasible. By the Val Guardians and Huwasi.

"But what about the camp on the hill"

No, it doesn't work. The elevation difference makes it difficult for melees and tanks to attack the mob, and there's too much distance to consistently make 30 chains for most players.

We need more Frozen Void Dragons and in greater density. A perfect place to put more dragons is near the Mirrorknights by Hakutaku's spawn, or in the chasm near the Matamatas, or by Louhi's cave. You can even put another dragon by the Sankchinis.

Or, instead of adding more dragons, just increase the light drop rate and quantity. Or even make light guaranteed on a kill from a mob at-or-above level. Which are the easiest solutions and what most players would prefer. 2 hours of chaining Chimeras should give me a bar of light at least, but instead I'm left with half a bar. 2 days of chaining Chimeras, and I only have 3 frosty flakes. The efficiency lost from going to anything besides the sleepy bois makes it not even worth sitting in the instance if you don't get that 1 exact camp.

[ElazulHP]

Supposedly, according to the interview today the optimal way to farm for light hasn't been discovered yet. I'm not sure what it could possible be though.

[Conando]

Supposedly, according to the interview today the optimal way to farm for light hasn't been discovered yet. I'm not sure what it could possible be though.

It's bunk is what it is. We already know the method, hope for mutations.

[Luin]

Supposedly, according to the interview today the optimal way to farm for light hasn't been discovered yet. I'm not sure what it could possible be though.

If it's anything as inane as following that stupid floating crystal I can guarantee most people will be furious. Regardless, if the "optimal" way still hasn't been discovered, then I don't think there *is* an optimal way. Hundreds of thousands of people, and *nobody* happens upon something that is supposed to be intuitive enough to classify the content as a casual grind? That's just bad design.

[Magic-Mal]

If it's anything as inane as following that stupid floating crystal I can guarantee most people will be furious. Regardless, if the "optimal" way still hasn't been discovered, then I don't think there *is* an optimal way. Hundreds of thousands of people, and *nobody* happens upon something that is supposed to be intuitive enough to classify the content as a casual grind? That's just bad design.

Or people just follow each other without thinking of things themselves. Out of the hundreds of thousands of people, most likely only 100 are actually out to discover. Others just follow.

[Luin]

Or people just follow each other without thinking of things themselves. Out of the hundreds of thousands of people, most likely only 100 are actually out to discover. Others just follow.

And?

It's a major piece of content and the relic is the focus. If it's being denied to the playerbase because they just don't "get it", then that's bad design. Especially if not "getting it" leads players to believe days-long grinds is the intended path, the developer is purposely misleading the playerbase and negatively impacting player perception.

There is no way to twist the light farming into being healthy content.

[Magic-Mal]

And?

It's a major piece of content and the relic is the focus. If it's being denied to the playerbase because they just don't "get it", then that's bad design. Especially if not "getting it" leads players to believe days-long grinds is the intended path, the developer is purposely misleading the playerbase and negatively impacting player perception.

There is no way to twist the light farming into being healthy content.

Oh I never said it wasn't badly designed lol. In fact, it's so bad that I've never even stepped foot in Eureka!

[Ash_]

I think it does have something to do with the floating crystals. I killed a lightning elemental mob that was directly underneath it while it was stationary, and I got maximum bright light for it. The elemental didn't mutate or change either btw.

I haven't been able to replicate it though as the timing is a pain, and I think either you need to kill a mob 100% directly underneath while it's moving or wait for it to be stationary.

[CorbinDallas]

I think it does have something to do with the floating crystals. I killed a lightning elemental mob that was directly underneath it while it was stationary, and I got maximum bright light for it. The elemental didn't mutate or change either btw.

I haven't been able to replicate it though as the timing is a pain, and I think either you need to kill a mob 100% directly underneath while it's moving or wait for it to be stationary.

The flying crystals are client side afaik, so that can't be a thing.

[Kazgrel]

Based on the info gathered this far...this is by far and away the worst light farm. I wasn’t around for ARR relics pre need, though. 8 Anima weapons done before SB arrived and I’d much rather be in the SB equivalent (O1S maybe) spamming away at that than running back and forth between sleepy boi spawns killing then over and over.