Sexual harassment

[MoroMurasaki]

@MoroMurasaki: Yes that is still at least fine but I would still look out for each case and see if that person can take it right now or not. Sometimes its maybe better to only support them and maybe talk with them about this later, when they are less emotional impacted by this. People just need to remember that not everyone will take everything the same way and for some this might be too much.

I think this is the core of our disagreement - I don't believe in sugarcoating the truth when it comes to something this important. Facts don't care about your feelings and the fact of the matter is if you engage in behavior like what has come out of the TMP story (specifically sending nude photos or video to someone else, much less someome you've never even met) you have made a huge mistake even if nothing bad comes of it.

If we suspend disbelief and only listen to their evidence it paints a picture of these women allowing themselves to be bullied and extorted over a spot in a Free Company or at a glorified fansite/blog. No matter how despicable one finds the actions of (the bad guy whos name we can't say) if you can step back and look at things objectively you will see he would have been completely neutered if the women he targeted stood up for themselves at the first signs of abuse.

For what feels like the hundredth time I find myself reiterating that if (hes sorta like Voldemort in that way) did everything he was accused of he is a disgusting person and I never want anything to do with him; none of that changes the fact that he is still out there though and is likely not the only of his kind. Hell, he got caught! He probably isn't even the cleverest person in the game doing these things. We can sit here and focus on comforting a few people who made some poor choices or we can learn from this experience and hopefully make it harder for him or predators like him to prey on players in the future. I think the choice is obvious.

Personal accountability. I don't know why that is such a taboo concept and I feel like it can never be stressed enough. No one is ever "unable to handle" being told they screwed up and coddling them only sets them up to face the same things again in the future. That isn't what I wanted after my sexual assault and I doubt it's what the TMP victims want either.

Careful, this stuff is too politically incorrect for this forum to handle. But before that, can you pass me the great commune tea, by the whey?

Everything is too politically incorrect for these forums it seems...