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    Quote Originally Posted by QT_Melon View Post
    So you propose that we continue with sexism and treat males as something to be feared.
    "certain people will always prey on the weakness of others"...how did you construe this to "continue with sexism and treat males as something to be feared"? I really can't follow the logic here...

    Also, by focusing on males, you seem to imply that females are not capable of "prey[ing] on the weakness of others".

    So much for equality.
    I am all for equality. We can start with seeing in more female dead bodies on the battlefield. Look at this statistics: in every operation, more than 90% of dead soldiers are males.

    This is sexism! It should be 50/50! How can the men dominate in dying! Women should have equal and unhindered rights to die too!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DDkiki View Post
    Sexual harassment in mmorpg. Lol. Just blacklist ppl and stop being spoiled snowflake. This with all half-nakes miqotes running around looks like silly joke.

    Really reminds me of Inotep, Artemisa and Gedran story in wow.
    Do you want to know what really bothers me about this post?
    The fact that it has 68 likes.

    If I'm being genuinely honest, it actually makes me ashamed to play this game.
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    It's only happened to me once so far. I just had a GM take care of it. After that never had another problem.
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    You have a million tools to silence someone who is trying to be funny. There may be some extreme cases, but they are very rare. If you are one of them, report to SE and I'm sure they'll handle it. They are pretty sensitive with this kind of stuff.

    On a side note, if there's anyone that has been legit "sexually harassed" in this game I strongly doubt they'll happily post it here.
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    If you think this thread or it's contained topic is funny please leave... this is not the thread for you...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Okamimaru View Post
    If you think this thread or it's contained topic is funny please leave... this is not the thread for you...
    I agree, unfortunately there are too many who think this is a funny or unimportant issue. such people are usually those who have no idea what its like to be harassed, raped, or assaulted physically. I unfortunately know all 3. But lack of experience should be no excuse for apathy. The ability to feel empathy for another living thing is at the core of any evolved being. I find it sad and troubling to see so many lack that simple and infinitely important quality these days. But I thank you for bringing up the topic.
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    I don't think SE/FFXIV should do anything regarding the TMP issue. The game was used as a medium - just like any other social media website or application. A lot of the interactions also occurred in other mediums, like Discord, Hangouts, and Skype, and one or two in person. And it's rare for those platforms to restrict their users outside of letting the users have control over who they interact with and to whom they share their data that's being stored within the platform's database, so to expect something from SE/FFXIV is a bit much.

    However, I do think that whenever harassment (both sexual and not) are reported that they are handled objectively and carefully prior to taking any action. And I think that's all they can really do - address reported issues that occurred on their platform and elevate them to authorities as necessary. And if it's at their events, this wouldn't fall on their jurisdiction either and would/should be elevated to actual legal authorities.
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    Last edited by Mnemyx; 07-01-2018 at 02:35 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mnemyx View Post
    I don't think SE/FFXIV should do anything regarding the TMP issue.

    However, I do think that whenever harassment (both sexual and not) are reported that they are handled objectively and carefully prior to taking any action. And I think that's all they can really do - address reported issues that occurred on their platform and elevate them to authorities as necessary. And if it's at their events, this wouldn't fall on their jurisdiction either and would/should be elevated to actual legal authorities.
    I disagree a slight bit. Doing something isn't saying "Ban people involved" but they can make an official statement on the matter. That's why I said again I'm curious if they will address it. I think ignoring it when they talk about their community kinda puts them bad light in the sense that it seems like they're ignoring it. I mean they talk about the community and activities their game has influenced, I don't think it's right to have it both ways - where you don't at least state something when there are bad aspects that result as well.

    As far as taking actions for players, I again state and hope that maybe they do have a special task force of GMs more qualified to handle a sensitive matter. I think goes a long way, I mean it makes it look like they are looking a bit more at ways to know a player can talk with someone more qualified to handle this - than just a volunteer/regular player that happens to work for them. I don't expect them to get too involved when its outside the game, but staying silent and pretending it doesn't happen when you know this is a game that has a very chatty community in the game and out of it - isn't helpful.

    HOWEVER, I do want them to take their time if they do present a statement, which as I said prior - I am sure they are.
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    Last edited by QT_Melon; 07-01-2018 at 03:18 AM.

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    Also, the one incident that I would consider sexual harassment in FFXIV, I reported the user, screenshots and all. A GM promptly contacted me and remained objective as we discussed it. I don't know the outcome at the end of the day, but I've not been bothered by said person. Also helps that he wasn't on the same server.

    I acknowledge that my experience is far milder and less intrusive compared to if the person had been in the same FC.

    But as a survivor of abuse (sexual, emotional, and physical), it's always going to be in your best interest to remain calm, appear amicable, and keep written logs, as much as I know all you want to do is backlash at the person making you feel cornered. Distance yourself and make clear your intent of closing all lines of communication. From personal experience, legal authorities and strangers peeking into the situation will tend to dismiss you otherwise, and that's the worst thing you can do for your cause and sanity at a time that's already grueling.
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    Generally speaking, companies don't make statements about individual cases. Any 'crackdown' on harassment could very well be heavy handed and come at the cost of the enjoyment of legitimate players. Look at how everybody is now unable to talk in Feast as a consequence of some bad apples being very vocal and aggressive.
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