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    Quote Originally Posted by QT_Melon View Post
    Ok then, so does that mean the perp gets a lesser punishment because you made the crime easier for them to commit? I think that's really what's being asked here. There's already the sense of shame and fear when you are a victim of a crime, even more so if you knew you did something ignorant or stupid to help with that crime. So what is blame going to do here? I'm curious.
    They will get whatever sentence the law seems is just. Not sure what you are asking I never said that they should get lesser sentence. All I am saying is I feel as if their are degrees of fault, and people should actively try to protect themselves. If ignorance leads to something negative happening after the appropriate authorities are contacted, the next step is to make sure you learn from what happened and take steps to do what you can to prevent it from happening again. I am extremely confused as to why it seems as if you feel I feel they should get lesser time for the crime because I did not do what I could to protect myself. The only way we can learn from our mistakes is if someone points out the mistake, even if it is in hindsight.

    Quote Originally Posted by QT_Melon View Post
    Again, what does that mean. It still in the end means that the person who committed the crime get the same sentence because there's no distinguishing factor in law that "oh well victim is somewhat to blame" It also does absolutely nothing to even talk about blame when what happened, already happened. So you wonder why I'm asking. I'm asking while you're worried about the symptoms (in the sense of next steps to take course), you're not looking at the cause in the end.

    "Don't want the possibility of pregnancy or STI" don't have sex, even birth control has a possibility of failure. Ok. Great. Still happened. Now what. We just work backwards or forwards here?
    So you are saying that we should not point out what people can do after the fact the prevent it from happening again? How is a person supposed to learn from the event if they are unwilling to admit that some of the fault is on them? As I mentioned before what can we reasonably do to prevent such issues from happening? Sadly the only way to prevent such issues is for people to learn and protect themselves in the most practicable way. If you want to have sex just do what is most practicable to protect yourself from getting pregnant or an STD but you do so knowing that their is a still a chance something might happen, so is it better to do nothing? Educating yourself as to what and how it happened is moving forward since that really is the only way to protect yourself from it happening again. I mentioned in another post sure we can educate people before the fact but often times people are blind to what is happening or do not see the risk until it happens or a scare happens. Not sure what preemptive thing anyone can do to combat such a thing, since sadly this is one of those things that a lot of people feel oh it can never happen to me until it does. Hope that makes sense.

    Sorry going to hit my post limit soon so going to edit this post with my comment.
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    Last edited by Rogatum; 06-29-2018 at 10:31 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogatum View Post
    They will get whatever sentence the law seems is just. Not sure what you are asking I never said that they should get lesser sentence. All I am saying is I feel as if their are degrees of fault, and people should actively try to protect themselves.
    Again, what does that mean. It still in the end means that the person who committed the crime get the same sentence because there's no distinguishing factor in law that "oh well victim is somewhat to blame" It also does absolutely nothing to even talk about blame when what happened, already happened. So you wonder why I'm asking. I'm asking while you're worried about the symptoms (in the sense of next steps to take course), you're not looking at the cause in the end.

    "Don't want the possibility of pregnancy or STI" don't have sex, even birth control has a possibility of failure. Ok. Great. Still happened. Now what. We just work backwards or forwards here?
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    Quote Originally Posted by QT_Melon View Post
    Again, what does that mean. It still in the end means that the person who committed the crime get the same sentence because there's no distinguishing factor in law that "oh well victim is somewhat to blame" It also does absolutely nothing to even talk about blame when what happened, already happened. So you wonder why I'm asking. I'm asking while you're worried about the symptoms (in the sense of next steps to take course), you're not looking at the cause in the end.

    "Don't want the possibility of pregnancy or STI" don't have sex, even birth control has a possibility of failure. Ok. Great. Still happened. Now what. We just work backwards or forwards here?
    Block and move on? It's the internet. Do you want the police involved? If so, do it. Do you want the "abuser" banned or punished? Contact GMs. Do you want to complain about it? This is a MMORPG.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rubiss View Post
    This is a MMORPG.
    Yeah, okay. So apparently places like Fanfest is just full of Avatars, not people. The fact is people do form relationships for better or for worse outside the game. Unless this is supposed to be a myopic mindset?
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