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    Player Dualgunner's Avatar
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    Lilila Lila
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    Quote Originally Posted by NephthysVasudan View Post
    I wouldn't be complaining if It wasn't needed.
    Surely you realized that.

    Yes...there are SOME..not many..but SOME instances where it's not needed.
    But there are many areas where it is...where esuna consumes less mana..requires less cures ultimately in your party in terms of healing.

    People who don't use it...force more work...and saddly..stupid accidents.
    This is not a matter of dodging damage...there are mechanics where you are forced to face roll debuffs.
    I'm actually given to believe more instances don't need it than do. The gauntlet is thrown however, mention all the instances that esuna is required instead of adopting a holier than thou attitude with the guy.
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    Player NephthysVasudan's Avatar
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    Nephthys Yamada
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dualgunner View Post
    I'm actually given to believe more instances don't need it than do. The gauntlet is thrown however, mention all the instances that esuna is required instead of adopting a holier than thou attitude with the guy.
    Nope...the "guy" will just make up more stuff that are ridiculous and foolish. Not worth the time. I couldn't care less of being accused of holier than thou...its not holier than thou.
    If I'm healing your party...you can be damn sure you won't have a stupid accident because I'll have Esuna and actually use it.
    Couldn't care less what anyone thinks beyond that.
    Heal smarter...not harder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NephthysVasudan View Post
    Nope...the "guy" will just make up more stuff that are ridiculous and foolish. Not worth the time. I couldn't care less of being accused of holier than thou...its not holier than thou.
    If I'm healing your party...you can be damn sure you won't have a stupid accident because I'll have Esuna and actually use it.
    Couldn't care less what anyone thinks beyond that.
    Heal smarter...not harder.
    The bolded is a bit of an ironic comment coming from someone who doesn't want to take the time to understand which fights don't require Esuna and thus free up other cross role slots that allow them to heal smarter. IE, taking Sure Cast in O8 over Esuna to assist with knock back mechanics while maintaining positioning for good healing / DPS or taking Cleric Stance to help out with the deeps. I routinely swap out cross roles depending on the content just to help optimize / heal smarter.

    In savage, the only tier you need Esuna is in O5S and you don't even need that if you're doing the train skip. But I will bring Esuna for Rabanstre because, well, crap happens. So, yes heal smarter and bring a better cross role that isn't 100% useless / very low utilization depending on the content you're participating in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghishlain View Post
    In savage, the only tier you need Esuna is in O5S and you don't even need that if you're doing the train skip.
    Wait, what? You can use Esuna there (I have not gone in as a healer, and things are so chaotic that I don't have a chance to pay attention to other party members bars, aside from which tank has prey if I'm tanking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    Wait, what? You can use Esuna there (I have not gone in as a healer, and things are so chaotic that I don't have a chance to pay attention to other party members bars, aside from which tank has prey if I'm tanking.
    The only debuff that can be removed with Esuna is the potency reduction debuff in the healer train since you're suppose to out heal that damage. If you're using the train skip you don't even have to bring Esuna since you won't be doing that mechanic.

    No other mechanic that places a debuff on a party member in the entirety of Sigmascape (Savage) can be removed with Esuna.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    Wait, what? You can use Esuna there (I have not gone in as a healer, and things are so chaotic that I don't have a chance to pay attention to other party members bars, aside from which tank has prey if I'm tanking.
    Inside the healer ghost, it debuffs you with reduced healing. Says a lot that since week one you've been able to brute force through it with off globals since the ghost kills itself before the third cast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CorbinDallas View Post
    Inside the healer ghost, it debuffs you with reduced healing. Says a lot that since week one you've been able to brute force through it with off globals since the ghost kills itself before the third cast.
    Oh no, the last time I tried the cheese strat, I totally missed both Onslaught and Upheaval. I killed the ghost...about a second after the party died lol. But WAR was a recent thing - up until a few weeks ago, I only went in as PLD, SMN, and DRG.
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