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  1. #61
    Player Avatar de NephthysVasudan
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    Nephthys Yamada
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    Adamantoise
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    Mage blanc Lv 80
    Citation Envoyé par CorbinDallas Voir le message
    Side note, but esuna is garbage and a waste of a slot 99.9% of the time and only required for like 4 fights in the entire game. Stop putting so much weight or value to it when there are much better role skill choices.
    HAHAHAHHAHAHA


    You're funny.
    (3)

  2. #62
    Player Avatar de CorbinDallas
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    Korbin Dallas
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    Érudit Lv 80
    Citation Envoyé par NephthysVasudan Voir le message
    HAHAHAHHAHAHA


    You're funny.
    Prove me wrong. Aside from 2 (?) instances of Doom, and Allagan Venom, tell me where else Esuna is absolutely mandatory for a clear.

    I couldn't care less about "it's saved someone from Hashmal bleed" or other such things, people shouldn't be getting hit in the first place.
    (4)

  3. #63
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    Avatar de Gin_Gray
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    Kaze Shiro
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    Exodus
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Short answer Dps lost using it.
    (1)

  4. #64
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    Alinhbo Rhiki
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    Adamantoise
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    Invocateur Lv 90
    Citation Envoyé par lilithvincent Voir le message
    What other content do you ever need LB for at all? Certainly not Dungeons or 24 man content.
    It can be useful in dungeons and speed up play if the tank and other players know enough to do large pulls in certain areas. A couple of examples are all trash between the 1st and 2nd boss or trash between the laser gates after the 2nd boss of Ala Mhigo. Pulling all of trash just before the last boss Skalla is another place where the caster LB can speed up play. Other dungeons have similar places where the caster LB can be effective and can be rebuilt for use on the last boss. The real problem is DF groups have little discussion or knowledge about where LB can be effective so if they use LB it is just to use it not as part of any strategy.
    (2)

  5. #65
    Player Avatar de NephthysVasudan
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    Nephthys Yamada
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    Citation Envoyé par CorbinDallas Voir le message
    Prove me wrong. Aside from 2 (?) instances of Doom, and Allagan Venom, tell me where else Esuna is absolutely mandatory for a clear.

    I couldn't care less about "it's saved someone from Hashmal bleed" or other such things, people shouldn't be getting hit in the first place.
    I'm not going to argue with someone who has no clue what they are talking about.
    You're not worth the time. I'll just black list you in game if you decide to heal a party without esuna instead.
    This is a common sense aspect...not a "preference"
    (1)

  6. #66
    Player Avatar de Dualgunner
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    Lilila Lila
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    Coeurl
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    Machiniste Lv 80
    Citation Envoyé par NephthysVasudan Voir le message
    I'm not going to argue with someone who has no clue what they are talking about.
    You're not worth the time. I'll just black list you in game if you decide to heal a party without esuna instead.
    This is a common sense aspect...not a "preference"
    Common sense is "right tool for the right job". If esuna isn't necessary for a particular instance it is a waste to take it.
    (4)

  7. #67
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    Erilsa Leadleaf
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    Ragnarok
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    I'll usually expect the caster to drop one on the wall to wall pulls, this doesn't happen usually. But I don't bother typing up the order midpull either as there's usually been a huge delay in doing so if it even happens.
    Will then Braver the final boss on opening, 2nd gauge is usually earned <10% if at all and bladedance goes into overkill or lands as it dies.
    (0)

  8. #68
    Player Avatar de NephthysVasudan
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    Nephthys Yamada
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    Citation Envoyé par Dualgunner Voir le message
    Common sense is "right tool for the right job". If esuna isn't necessary for a particular instance it is a waste to take it.
    I wouldn't be complaining if It wasn't needed.
    Surely you realized that.

    Yes...there are SOME..not many..but SOME instances where it's not needed.
    But there are many areas where it is...where esuna consumes less mana..requires less cures ultimately in your party in terms of healing.

    People who don't use it...force more work...and saddly..stupid accidents.
    This is not a matter of dodging damage...there are mechanics where you are forced to face roll debuffs.
    Frankly the "doom" answer is stupid..and just shows how utterly foolish people are.
    (3)
    Dernière modification de NephthysVasudan, 30/04/2018 à 23h33

  9. #69
    Player Avatar de Dualgunner
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    Lilila Lila
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    Coeurl
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    Citation Envoyé par NephthysVasudan Voir le message
    I wouldn't be complaining if It wasn't needed.
    Surely you realized that.

    Yes...there are SOME..not many..but SOME instances where it's not needed.
    But there are many areas where it is...where esuna consumes less mana..requires less cures ultimately in your party in terms of healing.

    People who don't use it...force more work...and saddly..stupid accidents.
    This is not a matter of dodging damage...there are mechanics where you are forced to face roll debuffs.
    I'm actually given to believe more instances don't need it than do. The gauntlet is thrown however, mention all the instances that esuna is required instead of adopting a holier than thou attitude with the guy.
    (8)

  10. #70
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    Kaze Shiro
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    Exodus
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Citation Envoyé par NephthysVasudan Voir le message
    "
    I mean he's not wrong in that esuna is a wasted slot and should have just remained native to all healers. Seems obvious to use it in the few situations that demand it albeit a short list.
    (7)

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