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    Is limit break not a thing?

    Not sure how often this pops up outside of 'Tales from the DF', but legitimate question: in your experiences, is DPS limit breaks not a thing in the Duty Finder? I've been running leveling over the last month while working on WAR, and I've noticed whenever a DPS gets asked to limit break, most of the time, they don't know how. It's been a while since I've done Hall of Novice and ARR MSQ, but was limit burst not a thing that was brought up at all?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    Not sure how often this pops up outside of 'Tales from the DF', but legitimate question: in your experiences, is DPS limit breaks not a thing in the Duty Finder? I've been running leveling over the last month while working on WAR, and I've noticed whenever a DPS gets asked to limit break, most of the time, they don't know how. It's been a while since I've done Hall of Novice and ARR MSQ, but was limit burst not a thing that was brought up at all?
    Takes up space on the bar, and someone else will do it. Just like Esuna on healers.

    With PotD I put the LB and the Auto-attack button on a bar that doesn't change between jobs. For the most part there is no need for the LB in any content, as the bosses are defeated too quickly that nobody remembers about it.
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    Point. Just generally curious. I usually go in as healer or dps, so wasn't entirely sure how other players experiences were. I wonder if this is a thing too with ps4 users, with not having the space to place an LB... Or if it even comes up at all through the little bit of in game tutorials that are around.
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    No, we have space for LB on ps4. There are many reasons people don't.

    -don't know how, new.
    -used to saving it for healer lb, or caster lb in dungeons
    -usually doesn't play the job often, so unused to using LB at that time
    -doesn't think it's necessary as melee, usually in dungeons (doesn't always speed things up that much)
    -may not be useful at all (shinryu in particular, he has so much hp melee LB is less effective)
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    Ah. So in essence, it's basically a non issue for leveling content? I haven't emphasized it much in my runs, save for the one request on certain bosses (like in Bardams) just to push past the wing phase.

    Ok,thanks for your responses. Again, was just a general question I'd been wondering.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    Ah. So in essence, it's basically a non issue for leveling content? I haven't emphasized it much in my runs, save for the one request on certain bosses (like in Bardams) just to push past the wing phase.

    Ok,thanks for your responses. Again, was just a general question I'd been wondering.
    More many reasons. I think caster mb is usually more useful than melee, since it can really speed up a large pull.

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    Going to need your class notes on this one.
    Try it. Shin has a really big pool relative to other bosses, that's why he has tails you kill to knock off 400k HP. Other bosses go down fast enough without it. Oh, and I forgot another reason; the LB got the player killed at some point, and he's wary of using it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiyahArp View Post
    Try it. Shin has a really big pool relative to other bosses, that's why he has tails you kill to knock off 400k HP. Other bosses go down fast enough without it. Oh, and I forgot another reason; the LB got the player killed at some point, and he's wary of using it.
    The only relevance of LB usefulness is how much damage you do with it vs how much damage you would be doing otherwise.

    That does not change based on boss HP. Shinryu specifically should be using an LB3 before adds, then a caster LB3 on his wings and back for maximum LB effectiveness.

    This is, of course, assuming you're in a group where nobody fucks up and dies. But that's also true for every boss and LB usage.

    EDIT: Oh. This topic is 12 pages long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiyahArp View Post
    -may not be useful at all (shinryu in particular, he has so much hp melee LB is less effective)
    Going to need your class notes on this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RiyahArp View Post
    -may not be useful at all (shinryu in particular, he has so much hp melee LB is less effective)
    If anything a higher HP pool would render the caster and ranged LBs ineffective since they do less ST damage than the melee one. In fact Melee LB is the preferred LB for all content unless a Tank LB is required, or in case of the second boss of Raba the caster one to deal with adds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vrankyl View Post
    If anything a higher HP pool would render the caster and ranged LBs ineffective since they do less ST damage than the melee one. In fact Melee LB is the preferred LB for all content unless a Tank LB is required, or in case of the second boss of Raba the caster one to deal with adds.
    I think Kaiva asked this in the case of duty finder, though. caster MB is better for dungeons imo, and the rare case u have add phases. in trials the bar rarely fills completely for some (lvl 50 hards) and people just use it at the end. Shin most people just save it for healers or to finish him off. Melee LB though is kind of useless overall in most casual content, it barely saves any time; like maybe u clear ten seconds faster on a boss. Like when people use it, he's almost dead anyways.

    really only time it got used in every fight was a12 normal, where u needed it to survive the attack.
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