Is limit break not a thing?

[Ghishlain]

Nope...the "guy" will just make up more stuff that are ridiculous and foolish. Not worth the time. I couldn't care less of being accused of holier than thou...its not holier than thou.
If I'm healing your party...you can be damn sure you won't have a stupid accident because I'll have Esuna and actually use it.
Couldn't care less what anyone thinks beyond that.
Heal smarter...not harder.

The bolded is a bit of an ironic comment coming from someone who doesn't want to take the time to understand which fights don't require Esuna and thus free up other cross role slots that allow them to heal smarter. IE, taking Sure Cast in O8 over Esuna to assist with knock back mechanics while maintaining positioning for good healing / DPS or taking Cleric Stance to help out with the deeps. I routinely swap out cross roles depending on the content just to help optimize / heal smarter.

In savage, the only tier you need Esuna is in O5S and you don't even need that if you're doing the train skip. But I will bring Esuna for Rabanstre because, well, crap happens. So, yes heal smarter and bring a better cross role that isn't 100% useless / very low utilization depending on the content you're participating in.

[KaivaC]

In savage, the only tier you need Esuna is in O5S and you don't even need that if you're doing the train skip.

Wait, what? You can use Esuna there (I have not gone in as a healer, and things are so chaotic that I don't have a chance to pay attention to other party members bars, aside from which tank has prey if I'm tanking.

[Ghishlain]

Wait, what? You can use Esuna there (I have not gone in as a healer, and things are so chaotic that I don't have a chance to pay attention to other party members bars, aside from which tank has prey if I'm tanking.

The only debuff that can be removed with Esuna is the potency reduction debuff in the healer train since you're suppose to out heal that damage. If you're using the train skip you don't even have to bring Esuna since you won't be doing that mechanic.

No other mechanic that places a debuff on a party member in the entirety of Sigmascape (Savage) can be removed with Esuna.

[CorbinDallas]

Wait, what? You can use Esuna there (I have not gone in as a healer, and things are so chaotic that I don't have a chance to pay attention to other party members bars, aside from which tank has prey if I'm tanking.

Inside the healer ghost, it debuffs you with reduced healing. Says a lot that since week one you've been able to brute force through it with off globals since the ghost kills itself before the third cast.

[Dualgunner]

Nope...the "guy" will just make up more stuff that are ridiculous and foolish. Not worth the time. I couldn't care less of being accused of holier than thou...its not holier than thou.
If I'm healing your party...you can be damn sure you won't have a stupid accident because I'll have Esuna and actually use it.
Couldn't care less what anyone thinks beyond that.
Heal smarter...not harder.

And if the dungeon in question has nothing to esuna? Honestly the previous poster I think had the right of it: things like esuna and rampart should have remained native abilities on all jobs of their role and not been dragged into cross role.

[Gumbercules]

I pop em at lvl 1 in dungeons! >

[Dualgunner]

Prove me wrong. Aside from 2 (?) instances of Doom, and Allagan Venom, tell me where else Esuna is absolutely mandatory for a clear.

I couldn't care less about "it's saved someone from Hashmal bleed" or other such things, people shouldn't be getting hit in the first place.

I can get where you're coming from with "you are responsible for avoiding avoidable mechanics." Within the realm of a 24 man though you do kind of have to assume they're all incapable of that, I'd count things like Hashmal as important times to take esuna.

[Avatre]

I can get where you're coming from with "you are responsible for avoiding avoidable mechanics." Within the realm of a 24 man though you do kind of have to assume they're all incapable of that, I'd count things like Hashmal as important times to take esuna.

While I agree, 9/10 nobody Esuna's the bleed. Not even when it's the healer themselves who has it(probably because they never took it to begin with).

[Dualgunner]

While I agree, 9/10 nobody Esuna's the bleed. Not even when it's the healer themselves who has it(probably because they never took it to begin with).

Fair, and if enough people got hit esuna is only saving so many of them. People need to use the tools they bring or they really are dead slots.

[RiyahArp]

The problem with esuna is that SE moved to make debuffs uncleansable as punishment mechanics for the most part, while removing cleansables ones. I don't think any HB dungeon has much of any of them. So people aren't used to a useful esuna as much any more/