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    MistakeNot's Avatar
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    Auriana Redsteele
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    Quote Originally Posted by CazzT View Post
    It's a fact (since you don't seem to like the word objective) that this is bad for new players.
    It is not a fact, it is merely a hypothesis.
    For new players who like to watch cutscenes it is a good change. Queue times for the new players may increase, but we do not actually know that they will increase, and we certainly do not know queue times will increase enough to be a problem.
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    Kyssa Shay
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    Quote Originally Posted by MistakeNot View Post
    It is not a fact, it is merely a hypothesis.
    For new players who like to watch cutscenes it is a good change. Queue times for the new players may increase, but we do not actually know that they will increase, and we certainly do not know queue times will increase enough to be a problem.
    It's not a hypothesis. How many times are we going to play semantics?
    Also, it's not a question of whether queue times might increase, they already have. One of the most common things mentioned in Prae and Castrum is how queue times are longer now. This is not supposition or conjecture or hypothesizing. It's already happened and is getting worse.
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    I love when people act like they have inside information that is only available to SE. Viewing something as a consumer is vastly different than viewing something as the Developer with all facts at their fingertips.

    Of course this is not to say that SE makes awesome decisions all the time, because we sure as hell know that's not the case, but it's time to get off your high horse when you're coming into a conversation claiming fact when you have nothing to back it up with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MistakeNot View Post
    It is not a fact, it is merely a hypothesis.
    For new players who like to watch cutscenes it is a good change. Queue times for the new players may increase, but we do not actually know that they will increase, and we certainly do not know queue times will increase enough to be a problem.
    DPS queues are INCREASING NOW!! the fact you can be number 15 to number 5 in 20 minutes and over all have a higher then 30 minute queue? this already has a huge negative impact, and considering this is across a data center, not just a server shows you how little people are using the MSQ roulette now. The reason tanks and healers are getting such short queues is because the pool is so small there is hardly, if any (esp tanks) queuing for it. Wanna know why tanks are prob not queuing for it? because they get faster exp elsewhere.
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vstarstruck View Post
    DPS queues are INCREASING NOW!! the fact you can be number 15 to number 5 in 20 minutes and over all have a higher then 30 minute queue? this already has a huge negative impact [...]
    A huge negative impact on who? Honestly as a DPS I'm used to those queue times. I just finished Heavensward (playing as summoner) and waited that long to get into the Aetherochemical Facility and Singularity Reactor. I wait that long in the daily leveling roulette.

    There's a queue and the queue is moving.

    (That said, I've only ever gone into MSQ roulette as a tank or healer, because I know those are more in demand and it will help the queue for everyone. So I can't compare the DPS queue times before and after for this specific issue. But queue times are a normal thing for DPS players, and I doubt they could be that discouraged just by encountering another queue at this point in the game.)

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    On a semi-related note, I'm wondering just how the roulette queue works versus the wait time for a player that has specifically queued for one of those dungeons. (Since you don't get a queue number in that case, just an average wait time.) Do they get priority, and the next seven people-with-suitable-classes in the roulette get put into their party? Or are they still in the same queue as people that signed up for the roulette earlier?
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    Jijifli Kokofli
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    Quote Originally Posted by MistakeNot View Post
    Queue times for the new players may increase, but we do not actually know that they will increase
    How many people do you think woke up, saw the changes and went, "OH YES NOW I WILL QUEUE FOR MS ROULETTE FOR THE NEWBIES AND I'LL DO IT AGAIN AND AGAIN"

    How hard it's gonna hit the queue in the future? I don't know, but it's going to be longer. There's no a forcing people to watch the cutscenes is going to get more people interested in doing the roulette often enough compared to people pushed off of it that did it before.
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