Please Reconsider MSQ Changes

[Iscah]

An additional thought I had re. queue times: is it possible that this won't actually affect one individual player's queue time much at all?

If there are less people overall queuing, but still enough people to fill up parties, then the queue will be slower, but also shorter.

You'd need access to more data to know where the balance actually lies. It could conceivably work either way.

[JaakRoot]

My 2 cents from a newbie perspective:

I am a very new player to this game and just started 3 weeks ago. Never played before and started to play because of a friend. I am currently lvl 48 and will soon arrive at the MSQ you are talking about.

In my opinion, this change is great as it will weed out speedrunners and keep only newbies and vets that are willing to help ( mentor, etc..) for the duty and I am 100% willing to sacrifice more queue time to get this. I was always feeling uneasy to watch the cutscene for previous duties as I knew quite well I was making everyone wait so I already skipped a few. Now, I know that there won't be any speedrunners or people that does not want to watch the cutscene and I will feel more relieved watching it myself.

[JaakRoot]

Following the post above:

I played plenty of other MMOs and I think FF14 is not really one. More like a solo game with multiplayer option in my view. I mean, I wanted to play with my friend but most of the MSQ is 100% solo apart from few duties... I guess FF14 it is first an FF game before an MMO so the story it what matters and I would like to enjoy it.

I will understand the need to revert the change if it kills completely the queue time ( like more than 2 hours ? ) but for now, let's wait and see I guess.

On the on the other hand, I am totally for an option to skip cutscenes if everyone did it at least once or an option for all to vote to skip. It is also ridiculous that they put it in PF and unsync as well.

Finally, the best compromise would be , I think, to increase reward for the MSQ roulette as some people mentionned in this thread so that the cutscene won't feel like a waste of time for some that already did it.

[polyphonica]

An additional thought I had re. queue times: is it possible that this won't actually affect one individual player's queue time much at all?

If there are less people overall queuing, but still enough people to fill up parties, then the queue will be slower, but also shorter.

You'd need access to more data to know where the balance actually lies. It could conceivably work either way.

Yes, so long as you have at least some regular influx of people queuing (which you will due to new characters needing to pass the story), the biggest factor that impacts the queue time in a trinity-based game is not the volume, it's class balance. I imagine that, if queue times become a problem, their next step will be to improve the bonuses for adventurer in need.

[Reynhart]

I imagine that, if queue times become a problem, their next step will be to improve the bonuses for adventurer in need.

They can also change the party structure. Nothing really requires two tanks, so it could follow the same treatment as Crystal Tower, since tanks are probably the hardest spots to fill.

[Iscah]

They can also change the party structure. Nothing really requires two tanks, so it could follow the same treatment as Crystal Tower, since tanks are probably the hardest spots to fill.

I agree, that would make sense. I've been mostly playing as off-tank and there's not a lot to do - I'm trying to keep an eye out for enemies targeting someone other than the tank, and 'bringing up the rear' during large pulls. It seems to be the most useful thing to be doing at the moment. (Any better suggestions?)

(It seems some people are still taking longer in cutscenes than others - must be something to do with computer speed? For the most part I seem to be one of the first people back out in control, but the other day I actually got locked out of the first colossus fight in the Praetorium because the entry got sealed while I was still in the cutscene. That might be due to just one other person with a fast connection running into the arena early.)

[Tlamila]

(It seems some people are still taking longer in cutscenes than others - must be something to do with computer speed? For the most part I seem to be one of the first people back out in control, but the other day I actually got locked out of the first colossus fight in the Praetorium because the entry got sealed while I was still in the cutscene. That might be due to just one other person with a fast connection running into the arena early.)

Which is why, even if I'd feel masochist enough to want to watch all those cutscenes, I'm never running it anymore. It takes me from seconds to minutes to load in and out of cutscenes, so it would take for me way longer than others (it always , in fact I loved auto-skip because even skipping would take me too long) and I'd be locked out of fights. I think it's more hardware than connection speed tbh, like with loading screens.

[Vstarstruck]

My 2 cents from a newbie perspective:

I am a very new player to this game and just started 3 weeks ago. Never played before and started to play because of a friend. I am currently lvl 48 and will soon arrive at the MSQ you are talking about.

In my opinion, this change is great as it will weed out speedrunners and keep only newbies and vets that are willing to help ( mentor, etc..) for the duty and I am 100% willing to sacrifice more queue time to get this. I was always feeling uneasy to watch the cutscene for previous duties as I knew quite well I was making everyone wait so I already skipped a few. Now, I know that there won't be any speedrunners or people that does not want to watch the cutscene and I will feel more relieved watching it myself.

you can edit your post to bypass the cap but i am genuinely curious and hope i get a reply to this:

You know, there was some that posted earlier on the matter where people do want to simply want to help, but now can't because it makes a 15 minute run into 30 minutes to 1 hour. So are you glad this change makes it very limiting who is able do it? Are you going to be running it later doing it for the 100th time watching the same cs you seen before? Don't you think it is a bit selfish to exclude so many when you can simply get friends and do the run at your own pace? (This friend you speak of is likely able to do these just you and them, but due to the change, you can't even watch the CS at your own pace) Are you aware this change prevents people going at their own pace? meaning I can't go slower then the auto play and read something over at that moment should I be distracted by something in RL? You really think it is a good change removing a dialog pop up across doing it in roulette, premade undersized, watching it in the inn? The change has many problems, not just reward vs time discrepancy.

(It seems some people are still taking longer in cutscenes than others - must be something to do with computer speed? For the most part I seem to be one of the first people back out in control, but the other day I actually got locked out of the first colossus fight in the Praetorium because the entry got sealed while I was still in the cutscene. That might be due to just one other person with a fast connection running into the arena early.)

ya they still need to load, so say someone with a SSD will start and finish them sooner then say a stock PS4. It has nothing do with connection, that is from hardware spec differences. Most of the time it is not notable but people with SSD and faster loading times can notice those on more sluggish setups. A strong dedicated graphics card and SSD are the main factors for it. You have to load the CS, then after it is done, load the instance back.

[StephanieLove]

Yeah. Ill never run MSQ again. Stick to your guns people. Abstain from broken MSQ roulette.

[Veliena]

I still think the best solution to this is to have a popup come up when you queue for the MSQ roulette or specific queue for the 2 dungeons. In the popup have it ask if you will sit through the cutscenes, if you say yes, you are grouped with others who said yes. If you say no, you are grouped with others who said no. If you said no, all cutscenes are auto skipped, even if you've never watched them. If you agree to watch you get increased rewards, if not you get standard rewards.