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  1. #511
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    Alleo's Avatar
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    Light Khah
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    Moogle
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    Arcanist Lv 91
    Well I am probably not going to do those with my alts since they are mostly there to sell my items and as extra storage so I cant truly answer your question for that Iscah. But I do believe that a part of the playerbase is not playing this game for the story (which is honestly fine for an MMO but nothing that great for a game story imo) and before that change they could at least skip this. Now everyone has to watch them even if they dont care for that. For some veteran players I also think its just too much to watch them over and over again, especially if those scenes are longer then the fighting parts of the dungeon.

    In the end I am just curious how long those that are fine with that will run the dungeons. How long it will take them to get bored and annoyed of it too. Yes we can all not just queue in that (thankfully) but I just dont think that this would count as a good long term solution.
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    A: In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.

  2. #512
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    XiXiQ's Avatar
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    Xixi Eclipse
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    Ravana
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    I did CM today, no wait (was heals), it took about 25 mins, the bonus was 1.1 mil exp. Seems reasonable enough to me.
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  3. #513
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    Jxnibbles's Avatar
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    Aimori Duciel
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    Gilgamesh
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by XiXiQ View Post
    I did CM today, no wait (was heals), it took about 25 mins, the bonus was 1.1 mil exp. Seems reasonable enough to me.
    What was your Healer level? How many players were new or did everyone clear and it was a zerg fest like usual?
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  4. #514
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    NaoTenbe's Avatar
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    N'ao Tenbe
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    Cactuar
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    Bard Lv 72
    At this point, I think the only compromise we're gonna get is if EVERYONE in the group votes to skip a scene, then it can be skipped.
    What worries me the most about this, is... what if they decide to start imposing non skippable cutscenes on OTHER duties or story?
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  5. #515
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    Reynhart's Avatar
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    Reynhart Kristensen
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    Ragnarok
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by NaoTenbe View Post
    What worries me the most about this, is... what if they decide to start imposing non skippable cutscenes on OTHER duties or story?
    As long as they increase the rewards accordingly so that your reward/time ratio is the same, it won't really change much.
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  6. #516
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    XiXiQ's Avatar
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    Xixi Eclipse
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Jxnibbles View Post
    What was your Healer level? How many players were new or did everyone clear and it was a zerg fest like usual?
    was 62, ended at 63. I got 400 poe so at least one was new. with the exception of the cutscenes it was a pretty normal run, no trouble.
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  7. #517
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    Claire_Pendragon's Avatar
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    Claire Pendragon
    World
    Mateus
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Back when i tried this roulette for my Lv 51 job and 60 jobs, I was getting almost no exp. I think someone said it used to be 1.8% of your exp bar. All I remember, was looking where my exp bar was (it was lined up with an icon on my screen) and when done, my exp bar was still lined up with that icon, it didnt look like it moved at all.
    This time, at Lv60, I got 20% of a levels worth of exp.
    Thats a TON more exp than before, and actually worth doing.

    I honestly plan to run these a lot now, and since its so easy, I have no issues with the change.
    (This is also the new PvP way of leveling for me lol)
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    Last edited by Claire_Pendragon; 02-04-2018 at 01:30 AM.
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  8. #518
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    Usho's Avatar
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    Masahiro Kido
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    Excalibur
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    If you're fine watching the same old (now unskippable) cutscenes everyday over and over again be my guest. But as for me, there are other means to get exp and farm poetics without a ton of bs like having for example: Having 7 ppl who aren't new to those 2 MSQ roulette dungeons, but having 1 person who is new thus forcing 7 other people to sit through boring cutscenes for 1 person which can take over a half hour or longer depending on the party you get.
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  9. #519
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    Usho's Avatar
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    Masahiro Kido
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    Excalibur
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Continued... (damn forum limit *sigh*)

    So...yeah...No.

    The bonus exp and poetics aren't worth the time. I can get done 2 other roulettes in the time it takes to finish msq roulette now...and that is sad.

    MSQ roulette used to take no longer than 15 mins to get finished. It was quick and easy, even with newbies, and half of the time, the newbies would skip the cutscenes anyway.

    SE is appealing to a small minority of players but making it more tedious for more experienced players and like i said, half the time, even the newbies want to skip the cutscenes.

    I just lol at the White Knights defending this bad decision for this roulette. But like I said, if you don't mind sitting through the same cutscenes over and over again everyday for meh rewards be my guest.

    /2 cents
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    Last edited by Usho; 02-04-2018 at 01:54 AM.

  10. #520
    Player
    Usho's Avatar
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    Masahiro Kido
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    Excalibur
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    SE should'nt have made those dungeons have those cutscenes in the first damn place. They and Yoshi-fail are the ones who screwed over new players because of their bad decision making. I used to blame the speedrunners for ruining my experience because like some i did miss some of those cutscenes/fights at the end of arr when i was new. But now I know it wasn't their fault and i don't blame them for wanting to get it done asap.


    A roulette is basically meant to be speedran and to be done fast.

    Hence why SE wised up with HW and did major cutscenes after dungeons. But now they royally screwed newbies again with this new change to the roulette cause the majority of vets and levelers won't want to waste an hour of their life watching old cutscenes over and over again...cutscenes they now CANNOT skip. Just bad decision making which Yoshi and Se are known for now and like se, Yoshi, doesn't learn from his mistakes.
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    Last edited by Usho; 02-04-2018 at 02:02 AM.

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