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    Player
    Iscah's Avatar
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Bismarck
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    Summoner Lv 90
    I know it’s totally individual, and I’m also tuning out of the cutscenes when repeatedly running the roulette now (and I’m in the Castrum now as I type this during cutscenes), but when I get my alt to that point in the story I’ll certainly be watching them again. As a daily run, watching everything is the equivalent of reading just one chapter in a long book over and over, and I wouldn’t want to do that - but when I’ve read the entire book up to that point, it makes no sense to skip that chapter. It’ll be the rare chance to actually experience it in its proper context, with the surrounding cutscenes and unrepeatable in-game scenes that come before and after it. I’ll enjoy seeing those characters take part in some of the most epic scenes in the game.

    For anyone feeling like it’s an issue that they will have to sit through cutscenes as part of playing the MSQ - do you enjoy the story, or are you mostly playing it for the gameplay? Do you skip all the other cutscenes on your alts, or is it just an issue that these ones can’t be skipped because you’ve been through this particular dungeon so many times? I can’t comprehend that experiencing the climax of a story could feel like a greater chore than the hours of quests that got you to that point. I accept that you feel that way, but I couldn’t bear to miss it.
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    Last edited by Iscah; 02-03-2018 at 09:16 PM.

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    Stigmar Ragnork
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    Malboro
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    Machinist Lv 80

    Hello Darkness my old friend......

    I really can't understand why they did it this way honestly yes make it unable to skip IF new person is in there, however I do not agree with forcing a complete group of players who actually want to speed run it and are not new shouldn't forced to watch cut scenes they seen.

    The easier fix would of been to set it up so it can detect a group with a new person and a group with no new person they already can do it since it does it with the new guy bonus. All this fix has done is made it where I will not touch the MSQ roulette as the tomes isn't worth it nor is the exp for the time it takes to sit through it, and on that note am sure am not alone and the queues are probably long now I haven't tried since the one time after the patch came and saw how the exp was pretty much the same and half the party went afk during cutscenes to watch Netflix which made it even longer.
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    Last edited by Stigmar; 02-13-2018 at 11:35 PM.

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    Krotoan Argaviel
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    Sargatanas
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Stigmar View Post
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    I will not touch the MSQ roulette as the tomes isn't worth it nor is the exp for the time it takes to sit through it, and on that note am sure am not alone and the queues are probably long now I haven't tried since the one time after the patch came and saw how the exp was pretty much the same and half the party went afk during cutscenes to watch Netflix which made it even longer.
    So you haven't tried it except once since it was changed but you're sure it's longer. Interesting take.
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    WHERE IS THIS KETTLE EVERYONE KEEPS INTRODUCING ME TO?

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    Light Khah
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    Moogle
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    Arcanist Lv 91
    Well I am probably not going to do those with my alts since they are mostly there to sell my items and as extra storage so I cant truly answer your question for that Iscah. But I do believe that a part of the playerbase is not playing this game for the story (which is honestly fine for an MMO but nothing that great for a game story imo) and before that change they could at least skip this. Now everyone has to watch them even if they dont care for that. For some veteran players I also think its just too much to watch them over and over again, especially if those scenes are longer then the fighting parts of the dungeon.

    In the end I am just curious how long those that are fine with that will run the dungeons. How long it will take them to get bored and annoyed of it too. Yes we can all not just queue in that (thankfully) but I just dont think that this would count as a good long term solution.
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    Letter from the Producer LIVE Part IX Q&A Summary (10/30/2013)
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    A: In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.

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    Xixi Eclipse
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    Ravana
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    I did CM today, no wait (was heals), it took about 25 mins, the bonus was 1.1 mil exp. Seems reasonable enough to me.
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    Aimori Duciel
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    Gilgamesh
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by XiXiQ View Post
    I did CM today, no wait (was heals), it took about 25 mins, the bonus was 1.1 mil exp. Seems reasonable enough to me.
    What was your Healer level? How many players were new or did everyone clear and it was a zerg fest like usual?
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    Xixi Eclipse
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    Ravana
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Jxnibbles View Post
    What was your Healer level? How many players were new or did everyone clear and it was a zerg fest like usual?
    was 62, ended at 63. I got 400 poe so at least one was new. with the exception of the cutscenes it was a pretty normal run, no trouble.
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    Beastmistress Milk
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    Balmung
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    Black Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by XiXiQ View Post
    was 62, ended at 63. I got 400 poe so at least one was new. with the exception of the cutscenes it was a pretty normal run, no trouble.
    You get double to triple your exp gain spaming sirensong sea, even if your using exp II buff from your fc , but exp buff III exists. The impact of rest exp , fc bffs and food is also much greater for sirensong sea, so if you have access to them, or using the squad manuals, you get far greater gains doing sirensong sea spam. I question 25 mins as well, minimum seems to be 35, someone that did a precise timing clocked 42 earlier in the thread.

    Since we are talking absolute best, 1 run of sirensong sea gives you about double exp you gained in that MSQ roulette and to top things off can be done in 10-12 mins. with healer being almost instant queue to anything, you would got 4 fold the exp doing 2 runs of sirensong sea. For most, you can fit 2.5 runs of sirensong sea in the span of one MSQ roulette.

    MSQ roulette is not worth doing in this state it is in.
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    Last edited by Vstarstruck; 02-04-2018 at 02:30 AM.

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    N'ao Tenbe
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    Cactuar
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    Bard Lv 72
    At this point, I think the only compromise we're gonna get is if EVERYONE in the group votes to skip a scene, then it can be skipped.
    What worries me the most about this, is... what if they decide to start imposing non skippable cutscenes on OTHER duties or story?
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    Reynhart Kristensen
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    Ragnarok
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by NaoTenbe View Post
    What worries me the most about this, is... what if they decide to start imposing non skippable cutscenes on OTHER duties or story?
    As long as they increase the rewards accordingly so that your reward/time ratio is the same, it won't really change much.
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