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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    Lastly, I'm sure they are hoping this will help boost their MSQ skipping potions. I know people have been joking about that in this thread, but I don't doubt that was one of the positives in their mind for implementing the change in this way.
    Now, I'm not saying that I don't think that this MSQ No skipping CS idea is dumb and it's just going to be a bad experience for everybody, but I don't believe this for a second. It's absurd. There's no way they seriously sat in their dev room thinking about ways to extort money from their players looking a little bit like this


    and thought enraging their new playerbase was a good idea to make money. A player that finds out that they can't progress past a certain point is far more likely to throw up their hands and say "I quit" then "I'm just going to go throw more money to buy my way past this" and keep playing. They will get more money in the long term if they retain the players.

    I more suspect that SE really, really doesn't want to turn it into a solo thing because it's far more epic in a big group scenario. Or at least, I imagine it was for the first few groups that did it when everyone wanted to read the story line. I'd imagine this is more of a last ditch effort to avoid turning it a solo experience while retaining the story the new players desire.

    One thing though that I don't think people have considered. At least, I didn't see anyone in this thread suggest it. Look at the way they phrased it. "To ensure new players are able to enjoy the cutscenes in Castrum Meridianum and the Praetorium, all cutscenes in these dungeons can no longer be skipped." Perhaps this means you can't just press escape and tell it to skip anymore, but can still just mash buttons to get through the text and finish the cutscene. It really only prevents "skipping the cutscenes" if they block off the entrances to boss fights until everyone finishes. It'll take a little bit longer then it currently does if they don't block off the entrances to boss fights until everyone finishes it, but not by the 45 minutes-1 hour everyone is suggesting. Maybe everyone'll get a lucky break and the entrance doesn't get blocked off, eh? Okay it's unlikely that the barrier isn't up, but I can hope.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiriel_Basanda View Post
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    I'm not saying that I think this was their main/sole reason for pushing the change like this, simply that it was probably noted as a positive side-effect. XIV is a money grubber. Between the standard cash shop items, paid MSQ skip potions , paid retainers, etc, I'm really can't imagine this thought hadn't crossed their mind. :X

    But yeah, it'll be interesting to see how this goes once the patch is live. Maybe, maaaaaaaybe they will be some additional rewards that make it more worthwhile of the time spent, but I'm not holding my breath :X
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiriel_Basanda View Post
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    SE is a corporation. What's a corporations main goal? Make a profit. I know the Dev team wouldn't just sit around and figure out how to get money out of the players, BUT there are people in corporate who DO sit around and try to figure out how to make more of a profit, and the Dev team has to answer to those people. This change probably wasn't all about making people buy potions, but to believe that potions had nothing to do with this decision is not only naive, but dangerous thinking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiriel_Basanda View Post
    One thing though that I don't think people have considered. At least, I didn't see anyone in this thread suggest it. Look at the way they phrased it. "To ensure new players are able to enjoy the cutscenes in Castrum Meridianum and the Praetorium, all cutscenes in these dungeons can no longer be skipped." Perhaps this means you can't just press escape and tell it to skip anymore, but can still just mash buttons to get through the text and finish the cutscene. It really only prevents "skipping the cutscenes" if they block off the entrances to boss fights until everyone finishes. It'll take a little bit longer then it currently does if they don't block off the entrances to boss fights until everyone finishes it, but not by the 45 minutes-1 hour everyone is suggesting. Maybe everyone'll get a lucky break and the entrance doesn't get blocked off, eh? Okay it's unlikely that the barrier isn't up, but I can hope.
    Yep, can't skip cutscene if 15 second timer shows up .

    Yay, what an experience!

    Only really "hardcore" players would run this:

    Castrum: cutscene, switch alarm off, cutscene, bigpull to boss room, cutscene, kill first boss, cutscene, enter vent, cutscene, then big pull til explosions, head to boss room, cutscene, kill second boss, cutscene....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Louvain View Post
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    It's actually a clever move.

    This will make more players to buy the skip story potion, more money for SE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fhaerron View Post
    It's actually a clever move.

    This will make more players to buy the skip story potion, more money for SE.

    My thoughts exactly.
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    Like I said in the patch notes thread. Unless they EXP bonus becomes utterly absurd. They have basically killed MSQ Roulette. Not to mention, if I'm leveling an alt, why do I have to now spam click through cut scenes I've already seen? Just a silly, extremely short-sighted change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KDSilver View Post
    "My suggestion is to just remove it from duty roulette entirely"

    They can't.
    Castrum is the first lvl 50 duty. No player that already did it will queue again for it. That's why they implemented the roulette. So that the queue time is shorter for new players.
    Please reread the line and take note of the last part. The idea is to turn it into a solo instance. People have hated running these two dungeons over and over again for years anyways, skippable cutscenes or not.
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    MSQ daily should have been removed and turned into a dungeon where the player can take his/her grand company npc group with them.
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