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  1. 02-02-2018 07:30 PM
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    The thing is that new players that like to see cutscenes were frequently forced to follow the fast pace, now they're free to enjoy the run as they see fit.
    Criticizing this new solution which makes people not run the roulette (a direct contradiction of why it was even put up in the first place) does not mean people here think things were fine before. You can leave that sort of strawman argument at the door. The fact remains this so called solution caters to the minority of people who run those places. And no, they can't enjoy the run as they see fit, no one can, we all have to watch the scenes in their entirety whether they like it or not. The newbies who want the scenes can't even watch it at their own pace since they're auto scrolling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyKaplan View Post
    Criticizing this new solution which makes people not run the roulette (a direct contradiction of why it was even put up in the first place) does not mean people here think things were fine before. You can leave that sort of strawman argument at the door. The fact remains this so called solution caters to the minority of people who run those places.
    Problem is, in a story driven game like this one, the first time you run these dungeons should be a memorable one. And it's more important to safeguard this that to keep offering this method of leveling/farming for experienced players when there are dozens of other ones. And again, if you need both Xp and poetic tomestone, it's still a very good option, even for experienced players.

    Frankly, for these two, I'd even double the reward to force an item sync, preventing people from facerolling it, since it kills a lot of the tension.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    Problem is, in a story driven game like this one, the first time you run these dungeons should be a memorable one.
    You're right, which is why I ran the place unsynced with my FC buddies. But there's more than one way to solve this.
    You know what would've also been epic? Running the place with the GC's elites in a solo duty. No queues to worry about, go at your own pace. This literally solves all issues and improves the experience besides.

    And again, if you need both Xp and poetic tomestone, it's still a very good option, even for experienced players.
    The duty is still hardly interactive which is very offputting for a lot of people, regardless of awards. Plus it's way long and people will not have the time to add it to their daily routine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyKaplan View Post
    You know what would've also been epic? Running the place with the GC's elites in a solo duty. No queues to worry about, go at your own pace. This literally solves all issues and improves the experience besides.
    Who knows, maybe one day they'll increase the squadron size to full party and allow us to run these along with trials. But if that happens, they can simply delete the MSQ roulette.
    Quote Originally Posted by BillyKaplan View Post
    The duty is still hardly interactive which is very offputting for a lot of people, regardless of awards.
    Frankly, to this day, I still think Meridianum is the best designed dungeon of the game, no being shaped like a "straight line" and having you interact with the environnement, either by using the cannons, deactivating the alarm, or avoided the tracking lights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyKaplan View Post
    The newbies who want the scenes can't even watch it at their own pace since they're auto scrolling.
    Exactly. When I was running those two dungeons for FC members and the few times with randoms, I never forced anyone to skip cutscenes. I even waited for them to show them the way, explain some stuff that they need to click on and more. I just find it bad that their solution is something that punishes way more people then it helps. If you try to do this daily or weekly you will be forced to watch that cutscene again and again and newer people that dont want to watch it will have to do so too. I just wished that they had made it into a solo instance. I mean the bosses are jokes anyway with veteran players so that poor Lahabrea cant even finish his speach before he is death. That would not leave a grand feeling inside of me. A solo instance would have given people the pace that they wanted. They can watch them or not, and the bosses might be no jokes too. And to give veteran players the chance to see that too they could have introduced a NPC that will make such solo battles replayable.
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