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    Iscah's Avatar
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Summoner Lv 90
    I did the roulette last night and got Castrum Meridanum. I queued as a tank, initially got an instant queue but someone pulled out; ended up waiting about five minutes.

    I think we had five new players in the group* - at any rate, after the longer 'talking' cutscenes, the same five people were still in it for a few seconds more, so I suspect that first-time players don't get the auto-scroll on text boxes. However, if so, they seem to have timed the autoplay version reasonably well to people's reading speed.

    * for what it's worth, Typhon has been a 'preferred' world lately so we may have a particularly high number of new people making their way through the story at the moment.

    The final cutscene after defeating Livia can be skipped.

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    Interestingly the cutscenes also now auto-play if you rewatch them at the inn. (I'd gone into it trying to get a particular shot of my character that looked good in the scene, but I was too slow to press the screenshot button.)

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    Aside of more drastic changes to the gameplay, I think it would make sense to change the party setup to one tank and five DPS, like the alliance raids. (Reading through a guide now, the off-tank's job in Castrum is supposed to be picking up adds, but they seem to die very quickly now, and there's no real role for them in the Praetorium.)

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    On getting the story experience vs. just watching cutscenes later - not only does watching the cutscenes 'in place' give you a better understanding of the flow of the story, but there is dialogue and events within the battles (eg. Hydaelyn speaking to you throughout the Ultima fight), and also it's not just about the content within the dungeon itself.

    Once a new player exits the dungeon, they can't just go to the inn and catch up on what happened - they're straight into further story cutscenes and the end credits, then more cutscenes, then an in-game (thus unrepeatable) scene as you return to the Waking Sands and everyone greets and congratulates you.

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    Also I just finished Heavensward main quest yesterday. It might be more efficient to have an empty dungeon without cutscenes, and then make you queue again for the final boss as a separate trial, but it feels a lot less epic from a story point (and I'm mostly here for the story). The Aetherochemical Facility, other than its boss fight, feels like a non-event. What was it for? Why were we in there? Just a jumble of passages and monsters for the sake of it.
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    Last edited by Iscah; 02-01-2018 at 10:03 AM.

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    SicariusSeven's Avatar
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    Kiroh Blackthorn
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    Balmung
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    After looking at this thread again, all I can say is, I wish new folks luck! There are far more people who don't enjoy being forced to watch than those that do. When you don't give people an option, they will just not do the dungeon. Especially if it's not worth their time.
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    Rhulk Roegan
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    Raiden
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    Quote Originally Posted by SicariusSeven View Post
    After looking at this thread again, all I can say is, I wish new folks luck! There are far more people who don't enjoy being forced to watch than those that do. When you don't give people an option, they will just not do the dungeon. Especially if it's not worth their time.
    Once again its not about the older players wanting fast xp.Its about the new players.
    Stop crying about it.If you dont want to run it then dont.Nobody here is forcing you to.
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    Iscah's Avatar
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Straight in again as tank today. The roulette hasn’t fallen to pieces yet.
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    Cecelia Stormfeather
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Straight in again as tank today. The roulette hasn’t fallen to pieces yet.
    Nobody was paticularly concerned about the tank queue. I am interested to see where the DPS queue is in a week, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tridus View Post
    Nobody was paticularly concerned about the tank queue. I am interested to see where the DPS queue is in a week, though.
    True, but that’s an issue in every dungeon to some degree. A DPS-only player is going to be used to long queues at this stage of the game.

    I’m not a really skilled tank, so this roulette means I can be helpful in a not-too-high-stress tanking role.
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    Last edited by Iscah; 02-01-2018 at 07:52 PM.

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    Rinuko's Avatar
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    Lele Inoch
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    True, but that’s an issue in every dungeon to some degree. A DPS-only player is going to be used to long queues at this stage of the game.

    I’m not a really skilled tank, so this roulette means I can be helpful in a not-too-high-stress tanking role.
    Neither Leveling, Alliance raid or Expert takes longer than 10-15 min (often less) as a DPS at any level. However MSQ have the past 4 months (maybe more) always been 30+ minutes as DPS. It hasnt improved since 4.2 so im not running it ever again.

    Edit: This is on Chaos DC and during EU primetime
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    Hashmael Lightswain
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    Zalera
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    I used to queue it as a healer for basically the same exact purpose, lol. "Eh, this one's pretty hard to screw up."

    I haven't run this again yet, and likely never will, simply because I have so little time to play as it is. But even if I did, I'd worry about tabbing out and forgetting to come back when the cutscenes are over.
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    Derio Uzumaki
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    Sargatanas
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Actually I think many people are running the new content to where all old queue times are affected. And this thing happens every patch.

    The real question is the queue times come a month from now, but even after that everyone will be in Eurika.
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    Mi An
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    Phantom
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    Paladin Lv 80
    As an old player with (almost) all and everything done, I found that roulette still a good source for poetics when I need them for any reason. Adding a little bunch of the new currency may be the icing on the cake.
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