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  1. #1
    Player
    Coratanni's Avatar
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    Whispering Whiskers
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    Goblin
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Anarnee View Post
    I have 16 characters at the moment that I have put a good amount of work into Three caught up to the current MSQ, Two at the start of SB, three in HW, one just past praetorium and in the story after, and the last seven are still before Prae. I know what it takes to get characters leveled and through the msq, that hour plus that I will be wasting in there can be used for the VERY LONG string of quests that it takes to get into HW. The story line of ARR after Prae is already very long. That is over 7 hours potentially added to a very long quest grind as it is for me.
    Seriously if the cutscenes are what's making you buy a skip potion, rather than the fact that you were going to be doing the many hour grind between ARR and HW, as well as HW to get to SB... You have a very strange sense of time and time efficiency. And this is from someone who also has 5 characters that are at SB or finished with the story.
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    Thyn'a Sindyrl
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    Siren
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Coratanni View Post
    Seriously if the cutscenes are what's making you buy a skip potion, rather than the fact that you were going to be doing the many hour grind between ARR and HW, as well as HW to get to SB... You have a very strange sense of time and time efficiency. And this is from someone who also has 5 characters that are at SB or finished with the story.
    It's an added potential 7 hours across my characters! There are parts of the story I love doing again, CM and Prae cutscenes ARE NOT a part that I love doing again, and FORCING me to watch them again, regardless of if I UNSYNC it or not, is down right stupid.

    I would get it if this was just in the MSQ roulette, but I can't even unsync it, and now I surely won't find people that would even want to unsync it should I get caught up. Not that I would want to anyway because WHY would I want to watch those scenes again?
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    Jxnibbles's Avatar
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    Aimori Duciel
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    Gilgamesh
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    So from what I understand since I have all 70s. I would only get 200 poetics or 400 if a new player is in the duty.

    I will not queue for this roulette anymore it needs to reward way more poetics and something else. It could be creation, the new tomestome or cracked crystals but as it stands I see no reason in me running this roulette ever again. If they even add more incentives after I get what I need.. It will be the same exact situation won't have a reason to run this.

    Rip the free shroud soil in 13-15 minutes once a day.
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    Last edited by Jxnibbles; 02-02-2018 at 12:31 PM.

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    Reynhart's Avatar
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    Reynhart Kristensen
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    Ragnarok
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Jxnibbles View Post
    So from what I understand since I have all 70s. I would only get 200 poetics or 400 if a new player is in the duty.
    Do people actually check the rewards ?
    MSQ roulette gives 200.
    Meridianum gives 120.
    Praetorium gives 200.

    New player bonus is on top of those.
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    Jxnibbles's Avatar
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    Aimori Duciel
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    Do people actually check the rewards ?
    MSQ roulette gives 200.
    Meridianum gives 120.
    Praetorium gives 200.

    New player bonus is on top of those.
    So do Roulette for Prae for 400 poets in about 47-1hr.. (More poets if new players)

    Or do Arf for 150 poets in 15-17 minutes.. (More poets if new players)

    If you have all your jobs maxed then the msq roulete is objectively worse for poetics. This does not include wait times.

    My point still stands the roulette is pretty useless, it has no value for level 70 players which are expected to queue into this to help newer players.
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    Last edited by Jxnibbles; 02-02-2018 at 06:28 PM.

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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Bismarck
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Jxnibbles View Post
    My point still stands the roulette is pretty useless, it has no value for level 70 players which are expected to queue into this to help newer players.
    Perhaps, then, it's simply not going to be Lv70 players doing the majority of 'helping' here. It'll be people who do still have jobs to level from 50 to 70. They help the newcomers through, the ex-newcomers join the ranks of helpers (if they want to), and it just continues like that for so long as there are new players (or alt characters) working through the MSQ.
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    Reynhart Kristensen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jxnibbles View Post
    Or do Arf for 150 poets in 15-17 minutes.. (More poets if new players)
    You realize you don't have access to ARF before level 60, right ?
    Quote Originally Posted by Jxnibbles View Post
    My point still stands the roulette is pretty useless, it has no value for level 70 players which are expected to queue into this to help newer players.
    "Having no value for level 70" is way different than "being useless". Lots of "old" players still level new jobs, especially if they want to test the most recent ones that, coincidentally, start at level 50, giving you acces to this roulette right away, or simply because they're bored of their old main job.
    Quote Originally Posted by Vstarstruck View Post
    implying max level players care about poetics in the first place, and if they do they run ARF or something.
    Yes, as a max level tank and DRG, I actually cared about poetics when leveling my fresh RDM, and gearing it with the best level 50 and level 60 gear, removing any concern of having to update my gear until level 70. And now, I'll do the same with my MNK, my SAM, and any job that's between level 50 and level 60 when I want to try something new.

    As icing on the cake, with the increased poetics, I'll have enough to buy anyting I need for an anima weapon if I want this special skin, while leveling a job.
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    Last edited by Reynhart; 02-02-2018 at 06:29 PM.

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    Aimori Duciel
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Reynhart View Post
    You realize you don't have access to ARF before level 60, right ?

    "-Snipped-".
    I was comparing Arf poetic farming to Msq and I was clearly talking about a level 70 player.

    Again you are missing the point if the 70 player switches to a new job to level then the player is clearly leveling which means that job is not level 70..

    Stop trying to twist what I say. if the player that is queuing into the roulette is on a level 70 job then the roulette is pretty useless. Also in both my post I mentioned players with max levels have no use for this roulette so please why are you talking about level 60s when I mentioned 70s only??
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    Last edited by Jxnibbles; 02-02-2018 at 06:40 PM.

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    Gumbercules Thesecond
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    Hyperion
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    Miner Lv 80
    the poetics are ok, but it needs to be at least double the xp if not flat out a half a lvl. Also needs to have new tomes for people queuing at 70 to incentivize "help" from lvl capped players.
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    Squintina Nightgard
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    Faerie
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Gumbercules View Post
    the poetics are ok, but it needs to be at least double the xp if not flat out a half a lvl. Also needs to have new tomes for people queuing at 70 to incentivize "help" from lvl capped players.
    Praetorium was literally half a level for me at level 62 :3 (not counting mob experience)
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