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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    This. . . this is just a bad elitist attitude.

    You realize if it creates too much of a skills gap they're just going to nerf it right?
    Personally, I disagree. MNK has always been a high skill job. Ramp up and keeping your stacks, the positional req bonus damage, knowing how to weave and burn your OGCD abilities. As mindless as it can be seen at times, MNK requires quite the attention.


    Quote Originally Posted by wereotter View Post
    There will always be a gap between novice and master players of a job, but they want to make that gap as small as possible, and if more opportunities to gain and maintain the core job mechanic of monk are introduced, making it easier to play, then that's not a bad thing. New players to the job will have an easier time getting into it, and master players will figure out how to best utilize these skills to their full potential.

    This exactly, but I can't disregard his point when I see MNKs (and DPS in general) make poor use of their abilities. And no, I am not talking about you have to be 90th percentile or get out. I m talking about seeing MNKs standing with the tank, hitting the mob/boss and ignoring positionals.


    Quote Originally Posted by BucklesTrespen View Post
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    I mean, if they need to QoL SB abilities at this point, RoE should deny getting any shield just like Darkside doesn't allow you to get any MP, forcing MNK to take the hit; I mean, we have like 20% def bonus at one point, might as well make it worthwhile.


    Way too many things can be proposed, which to me shows how MNK doesn't have a design focus.
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    Last edited by Mahrze; 01-25-2018 at 03:36 AM.
    If you say so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mahrze View Post
    I mean, if they need to QoL SB abilities at this point, RoE should deny getting any shield just like Darkside doesn't allow you to get any MP, forcing MNK to take the hit; I mean, we have like 20% def bonus at one point, might as well make it worthwhile.
    I think many monks agree that if they're going to adjust RoE in light of how it is impacted by shields, many would just prefer that you get the GL refresh when you activate the ability and also possibly that earth's reply activates at that point as well. It seems silly that you go into riddle of earth when you're about to eat raid-wide damage, but don't get your bonus shield until after the damage has already gone out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wereotter View Post
    I think many monks agree that if they're going to adjust RoE in light of how it is impacted by shields, many would just prefer that you get the GL refresh when you activate the ability and also possibly that earth's reply activates at that point as well. It seems silly that you go into riddle of earth when you're about to eat raid-wide damage, but don't get your bonus shield until after the damage has already gone out.

    I was avoiding it being direct about it but that is my sentiment too. Even better would be that earth's reply freezes GL until you take a hit. (But that might be too OP)
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    If you say so.