Thread: Monk 4.2 Adjustments

Originally Posted by wereotter

their many DOTs and with their pet, they are one of the least impacted jobs when it comes to mechanics,

uhm... many dots? smn lost his 3rd dot, his dot extension with con, the ability to spam and replace shadowflare, bane got a targetdropdown, bio+mia lost pot several times... – our dots aren't anything special nowadays compared to Brd who's dot uptime is even easier or Sam dot who lasts a whole minute... smn might be on a super sayajin level right now but not because our DoTs are so awesome... there are other dots which are way better to handle than ours... thats what I said in other threads as well its an old image that we are still the major DoT cls... something they took away from our identity as well playing around with this burst-bullshit ^^'

Originally Posted by Mahrze

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I quoted the text where he explains that smn dmg should be tuned down to rdm dmg because of a so called mobility and utility. About your post, I think the comparison between monk and smn is not legit. Smn is not meta, it was close to become on the 4th slot but not anymore. Besides your role is nowhere close to ours in utility (virus, apo, etc..). Also casters are rip in terms of performances.
The comparison could be made tho, if rdps was standardized, type of dmg-tied buffs removed and pt management coming back, but we're far away from that.

devtion is on a longer CD than Brotherhood..., smn will only rez with swiftcast (unless it can stop a whole wipe).., mantra's CD is being reduced..

ifrite / garuda have nice buffs, but pets die sometimes

=> mnk and smn should be on a similar footing, as blm and sam are both on a same

just before 4.2 smn was off the charts (sooo high dps + utility made smn fit in both prog and speed kill metas.. + at times highest personal dps.., guess SE saw too many players jump off smn to blm & rdm, so Smn got overbuffed.., now SE went far nerfing smn)

smn & mnk should both be equally valid in prog and speedkill pfs.., maybe smn a bit more in prog and mnk maybe a bit more in speedkills, but both still close to eachother.. (strong dps, with some utility)

just buffing mnk and a minor / middle sized smn nerf could have done the trick, but smn is getting a major nerf .. and 60 sec CD PB for mnk is a bit OP

We just need a better AOE rotation & qol with pots mnk is ready to be good.

While riddle of earth could be made better, it's still welcome for me, it was a GL saver for me in susano, O2S when -100Gs, and O3S sometimes during spellbound in library phase and mindjacks dark token in last phase, also the temple dungeon final boss when you have to run through orbs, boss will disappear and punch down from above, and during dragon heads agains yojimbo, if timed well you can save it there as well by getting hit by dog on purpose last couple seconds.

Actually, with the changes, I think MNK is in a good spot. The Perfect Balance's buff is a gift from sky, it'll make Tornado Kick useful and the job more interesting to play. Brotherhood applying to ourselves will quite raise our opener's damages. But, since we were not that far from SAM's DPS, i'm afraid we'll compete with them at this point, and they havn't the team utility we have. So... RiP SAM ?

Originally Posted by Shiroe

can mnks now abuse dragon kick every 60 sec? or better ways to use the new 60 sec burst?

Why would MNK abuse dragon kick? Best I can see is bootshine spam if not lining a TK up with trick and getting back up to gl3 quickly after.