Quote Originally Posted by Lina_Slayer View Post
We need offensive utility there is no other way around that, selfish don't work and never will in this expansion (unless you make it completely broken) and SAM is not an example of success because they are more than likely going to become us in 4.2 (a.k.a the worst dps job), SMN right now has the biggest personal damage in the game and some offensive utility and it is barely competing with the double ranged meta, imagine how much personal damage something like BLM that has 0 offensive utility and no burst phase to abuse stuff like Trick Attack would have to deal to compete with a class like MCH which has one of the strongest burst phases in the game thanks to WF and a really powerful offensive utility in the form of Hypercharge (also remember that MCH is the weakest link on the meta super comp).

Maybe in 5.0 by replacing stuff like Trick Atack, Hypercharge, AoE Balance, etc for single target buffs like Dragon Sight, those "selfish" carry dps like BLM and SAM could work but on StormBlood you either give them the SMN treatment (high damage and some albeit weaker utility when compared with the others) or condemn them to be bad for the entire expansion.
Quote Originally Posted by Llugen View Post
Really late response but I'm just going to reiterate yet again that I do not see "raw damage" ever outweighing support+damage on ANY class in this game. If the raw damage output was ridiculously high (see also: broken) then maybe, but I would much rather see utility from all classes and be accused of being "boring" than see my class locked out because it's undesirable to bring from a party damage perspective.

Again, even SAM brings something as menial as slashing down. BLM brings absolutely nothing. It's the very definition of a liability; feed your BLM and pray he's amazing/doesn't die.
To use extreme numbers, if you gave BLM 10k raw dps, you would. If you gave more single target sustained dps buffs (rather than raidwide short high potency buffs), you would. There's plenty of ways it can be done. If BLM has enough personal dps it would be considered - right now it isn't even close to providing that. Checkout Blackcat's Raid DPS app if you want more information.

As an FYI, SMN doesn't always have the biggest single target personal damage. Its dependent on the fight/kill time and group composition. Also its DPS is currently overestimated due to a bug with Dot Damage in the statistics site (as well as Ruin 4 exploiters).