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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaethra View Post
    Funny thing is, 270 is what drops in these dungeons. ...

    But at the end of the day, no its not going to ruin a dungeon run for me if I get stuck in that situation. I don't consider myself simply average though, others in that situation would struggle and fail.
    A similar ilvl does not necessarily indicate a proportional stat difference, to think so is a common mistake though. I believe the highest of these is 282 where as the lowest is 270. That's a 12 ilvl difference and yet...

    Augmented Shire 480
    Bardam's Mettle 610
    Doma Castle 739
    Castrum Abania 868

    These are tank chest armor values from the end of HW compared to the end of SB leveling dungeons. Aside from also having considerable deficiencies in other stats you can see based on armor alone you're taking nearly double damage in Castrum Abania if you're wearing Augmented Shire gear to a tank just wearing gear from that instance much less being actually ahead. No amount of your personal skill changes the numbers.

    To subject your party to this sort of negligence and laziness (especially when you have literally no excuse beyond ' you don't pay my sub' for not doing better) is awful. When I see random undergeared people in DF I tend to ignore it based on the idea that they don't know any better but you certainly do by now and you just refuse to be a courteous human.

    In your own way you've actually made it worse on similar players now - where I used to assume inexperience now I'll see the potential carelessness and likely have less patience overall.

    Edit: To all those claiming the ease of completing the last few SB dungeons in shire gear without issue... Has it occured to you this isn't a single player game? Your party matters. I'm sure on any healer class I could drag a shire tank through Abania, doesn't mean I should have to. I bet a geared tank could carry an undergeared healer too. The point is we should try to do better and since tge people in this thread make it clear they won't put in that minimal effort then we ask SE to enforce it for us.
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    Last edited by MoroMurasaki; 11-16-2017 at 05:55 PM.