Should the Heavensward Leveling dungeons and trials have item level requirements?

[RokkuEkkusu]

When Heavensward came out, the expansion's leveling dungeons and mandatory trials before ARF did not have item level requirements, despite previous mandatory ARR duties having them (e.g. Snowcloak requiring item level 80).

The gearing and damage output of these instances runs heavily vary. However, I commonly see undergeared players, especially those leveling alt classes.

My question is should the Heavensward Leveling dungeons and trials have item level requirements in the future?

[RLofOBFL]

110+ imo, 120+ for vault & up.

[Legion88]

100 for Dusk Vigil +7 for every duty
107 for Thok ast Thok and Sohm Al
114 The Aery
121 for Limitless Blue
128 for The Vault
135 for Gubal

would line up pretty well with the previouse upgrade steps from ARR (+10) and ARF and its 142 (another +7 from Gubal)

[Rita1989]

Would be nice was running the Vault today and the healer was so under geared that if the first boss used his LB move on them it would one shot them and it took 3 runs getting lucky that they didn't get targeted to beat it

[Nixxe]

I don't think it's necessary. I wouldn't consider Snowcloak an appropriate comparison either, as it was pretty deep in the level 50 endgame as far as dungeons go, which is why it has an ilvl requirement. Other ARR leveling dungeons did not as far as I know.

[Legion88]

I don't think it's necessary. I wouldn't consider Snowcloak (min average ilvl 80) an appropriate comparison either, as it was pretty deep in the level 50 endgame as far as dungeons go, which is why it has an ilvl requirement. Other ARR leveling dungeons did not as far as I know.

To take the aproach from this point of view "Would it be okay to go into Dusk Vigil with Gear from AV?" cause it's just a leveling dungeon and not so far into the level 50 endgame. This was spiced with some irony ofc.
The problem with this is, that Dusk Vigil is level 51 and not more 50 and it's mobs are thougher than the ones in keeper of the lake (min average ilvl 90), so i don't see any harm to set a min ilvl for this dungeons, especially this Dungeon is beyond level 50 and it's dungeon endgame, so the requirements should be beyond level 50 dungeon endgame too.

[Ama_Hamada]

EVERY DF in the game needs requirements, just because it is "rare" does not mean I enjoy carrying and stress healing undergreaed people.

I don't think it's necessary. I wouldn't consider Snowcloak an appropriate comparison either, as it was pretty deep in the level 50 endgame as far as dungeons go, which is why it has an ilvl requirement. Other ARR leveling dungeons did not as far as I know.

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Would be nice was running the Vault today and the healer was so under geared that if the first boss used his LB move on them it would one shot them and it took 3 runs getting lucky that they didn't get targeted to beat it

It is needed, every DF needs it.
Also every DF needs a WEAPON level requirement, and a stat level requirement (as in you need so much hp, so much main stat, to pass.)

average item level gates are too easy to exploit.

[Wolf_Heartnet]

Yes. 100% yes. Every dungeon and trial needs an item lvl req. Will prevent alot of rage and disbanded runs.

[Newmanxeno]

I didn't even know there wasn't one...man I must have lucked out when I first leveled up.

[Legion88]

Also every DF needs a WEAPON level requirement, and a stat level requirement (as in you need so much hp, so much main stat, to pass.)
average item level gates are too easy to exploit.

this can be easiely fixed by changing the min average ilvl into an absolute min ilvl and fixing the usability for accesoires to their stat users, like VIT-Accessoires are only equippable by tanks etc.
PvP-Gear can be excluded from this with an extreme low base ilvl and an reactivated moral in PvP. For example all PvP-Gears have only ilvl 150 but differing moral to bring them back to their actual ilvl+morale values.