Tank dps harrasment

[Sarteck]

This already happens with:

-any social site like facebook
-background checks of various degrees

Buisinesses check your competence through references and interviews but they also want to know if your image fits their company. So yeah, a boss who finds you online with...less than savory circumstances may not hire you, before and/or after a personal interview.

Actually, companies do use social media, and can base whether or not they hire a person on what is posted on their social media websites. They can also fire people for posting negative things about their companies on social media.

I'm not sure if you are actually seriously defending this or you didn't understand the analogy, or both.

No, HR teams will not decide to not hire you based on pictures of you vomiting all over the place (unless that job happens to be for a detox counselor or summat).

Further, you seem to have completely missed the point altogether--it would not be representative of your life as a whole, or of your aptitude for the job.

Just like some random bits posted to FFLogs without your consent are like not to be representative of your playstyle as a whole.



EDIT: And for some reason, you guys seem to have missed, this is not YOUR social media account we're talking bout.

[Dualgunner]

I'm not sure if you are actually seriously defending this or you didn't understand the analogy, or both.

No, HR teams will not decide to not hire you based on pictures of you vomiting all over the place (unless that job happens to be for a detox counselor or summat).

Further, you seem to have completely missed the point altogether--it would not be representative of your life as a whole, or of your aptitude for the job.

Just like some random bits posted to FFLogs without your consent are like not to be representative of your playstyle as a whole.



EDIT: And for some reason, you guys seem to have missed, this is not YOUR social media account we're talking bout.

Pick a better analogy. This one only works against you, there's no way to twist it that a company cannot dig as far into a potential employee as they please, and refuse to hire them for any misconduct they find.

[Sarteck]

Pick a better analogy. This one only works against you, there's no way to twist it that a company cannot dig as far into a potential employee as they please, and refuse to hire them for any misconduct they find.

So when you find out what company will decide to fire you or not hire you because someone uploaded images of you vomiting, let me know.

[HyoMinPark]

I'm not sure if you are actually seriously defending this or you didn't understand the analogy, or both.

No, HR teams will not decide to not hire you based on pictures of you vomiting all over the place (unless that job happens to be for a detox counselor or summat).

Further, you seem to have completely missed the point altogether--it would not be representative of your life as a whole, or of your aptitude for the job.

Just like some random bits posted to FFLogs without your consent are like not to be representative of your playstyle as a whole.



EDIT: And for some reason, you guys seem to have missed, this is not YOUR social media account we're talking bout.

It doesn’t matter if it’s YOUR account or not—if it’s out there, and connected to you in any way, and if your company finds out about it, they can and will choose to not hire you if it looks bad, and they will fire you if you’re already working there if, again, it looks bad—especially if it’s attached to any negativity towards the company themselves.

Because those pictures featuring you drunkenly vomiting everywhere reflects badly on the company. It doesn’t matter to them if it’s on your personal social media website or a website belonging to a friend or acquaintance; if the link to you is there, it’s still a reflection of you, and you would be a reflection of them as a prospective employee. If the company doesn’t want that bad reflection on their employee roster, then they will choose not to hire you.

It has nothing to do with defending FFLogs—this is something that literally occurs in every day life already. Most jobs, when you apply, they go over the social media policy with you (and every company has one). They also have you sign wavers allowing them to perform various background checks, which can include links to social media sites you are linked to. Your analogy was a very poor one to make to the conversation at hand.

[Shurrikhan]

I'm not sure if you are actually seriously defending this or you didn't understand the analogy, or both.

No, HR teams will not decide to not hire you based on pictures of you vomiting all over the place (unless that job happens to be for a detox counselor or summat).

Further, you seem to have completely missed the point altogether--it would not be representative of your life as a whole, or of your aptitude for the job.

Just like some random bits posted to FFLogs without your consent are like not to be representative of your playstyle as a whole..

While I'll agree that clearly a mere few samples that were released without your notice are unlikely to be representative of your performance, let's choose a different analogy...

HR can and often will choose not to hire you based on your social media, as irrelevant as your actions therein may appear to your job or your ability to perform it.

So when you find out what company will decide to fire you or not hire you because someone uploaded images of you vomiting, let me know.

Have you met the education industry, for starters?

[Sarteck]

While I'll agree that clearly a mere few samples that were released without your notice are unlikely to be representative of your performance, let's choose a different analogy...

HR can and often will choose not to hire you based on your social media, as irrelevant as your actions therein may appear to your job or your ability to perform it.

On your social media, sure. If I went around and acted like an idiot on my social media, and did it constantly, then certainly some companies would choose not to hire me. Or if, while hired, I decided to represent the company in any way I wasn't supposed to ("Well I work for X, and I can say you're just an arse").

But that's the point--it's not something you yourself are doing, it's something others are doing without your consent.

[HyoMinPark]

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I once worked with a woman (we worked for a grocery store chain) who got into an argument with another person in a different store. Said other person knew this woman worked for our store (she had actually been in the store earlier that week, and been denied a return by the woman I worked with; an argument had commenced about this because people always got uppity when we denied returns), called up our store, told the manager about what had happened in the other store, and there was a huge incident over it. My co-worker lost her job because the other person knew she worked for the store, and her behavior reflected badly on her, which reflected badly on the store/company.

Sometimes you don’t have to say “I work for X, and I can say you’re just an arse.” If you go out somewhere wearing your work uniform, if someone calls your store and says “Well, I encountered Sarteck in X store, and they were completely rude to me. I know they work for your store, and I’m going to make a big deal about her behavior”, your company can choose to take punitive action against you for your behavior while wearing their uniform. A lot of companies tell their employees this: if you’re out and about in our uniform, remember that you’re a reflection of our company. The same thing goes for ALL social media sites: yours or someone else’s. If bad pictures of questionable behavior are linked back to you, and your company finds out about it, they can choose to let you go over it, per their social media policies. It doesn’t matter if it was just one incident. Sometimes one is just enough.

Again, your analogy is not working for you. Best to just admit that, and pick another one. As people have advised you to do.

[Sarteck]

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I see the analogy as perfectly apt.

It's people judging someone on a bit of information, out-of-context, that may or may not be representative of their lifestyle.

Your own analogy is anything but--it's a specific situation that happened while the person was working, and had everything to do with how she conducted herself while on the job.

[HyoMinPark]

I see the analogy as perfectly apt.

It's people judging someone on a bit of information, out-of-context, that may or may not be representative of their lifestyle.

Your own analogy is anything but--it's a specific situation that happened while the person was working, and had everything to do with how she conducted herself while on the job.

No, the subsequent confrontation was when the woman was off the clock at a completely different store. The person she was in an argument with just happened to be a frequent customer at the store we worked at. An off-the-clock confrontation/situation directly led to her being fired. Because that customer knew she worked for our store. Please read my post again.

Again, your analogy doesn’t work. Companies do perform background and social media checks for prospective employees. And even for current employees. They give you the social media policy when you talk to them about being hired. Next time, take the time to go over it and read it.

It doesn’t matter if it’s an accurate representation of a person’s “lifestyle”—if it’s something that reflects badly, a company can choose to not have that person work for their company. Because even one bad off-shot is one too many for some.

[Sarteck]

No, the subsequent confrontation was when the woman was off the clock at a completely different store. The person she was in an argument with just happened to be a frequent customer at the store we worked at. An off-the-clock confrontation/situation directly led to her being fired. Because that customer knew she worked for our store. Please read my post again.

And she was arguing on your company's behalf, from something that did happen while on-the-clock. I'm not really seeing much of a difference there.

Again, your analogy doesn’t work. Companies do perform background and social media checks for prospective employees. And even for current employees. They give you the social media policy when you talk to them about being hired. Next time, take the time to go over it and read it.

Again, my analogy works perfectly fine. Of COURSE companies are going to do background checks. What they will NOT do is base evrything off of you from a few drunken images that someone else happened to post.

I don't get what's so hard to understand about that concept.