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    Quote Originally Posted by Mavrias View Post
    I hate to break it to you, but as you are in a party with them that they created it is absolutely their business to know what your skill level is.
    Hate to break it to you, but:

    1) At the very least, you'll have to agree that if they are NOT in my party, then they have no business, which is what that site is for; and

    2) No, it's NOT their business, tyvm. Especially random data plucked from who-knows-what situations.

    Either way, you're wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarteck View Post
    Hate to break it to you, but:

    1) At the very least, you'll have to agree that if they are NOT in my party, then they have no business, which is what that site is for; and

    2) No, it's NOT their business, tyvm. Especially random data plucked from who-knows-what situations.

    Either way, you're wrong.
    If you arent pulling your own weight in a PF who expect good or decent dps to kill before enrage, then yes its party leader business.
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    Last edited by akaneakki; 11-15-2017 at 11:07 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarteck View Post
    Hate to break it to you, but:

    1) At the very least, you'll have to agree that if they are NOT in my party, then they have no business, which is what that site is for; and

    2) No, it's NOT their business, tyvm. Especially random data plucked from who-knows-what situations.

    Either way, you're wrong.
    They actually aren’t wrong. If you’re in someone’s PF, and they opt to try and figure out why the group is unable to clear a fight, they have every right and every business to dig into that. They can use any source they choose, unless you would prefer they blindly kick and/or disband the party (which, when that happens, usually means that party leader knows exactly what is wrong, but cannot say because of the threat of being reported over mentioning parsers; so they disband the group and re-recruit instead).

    That being said, people usually don’t randomly search for people’s FFLogs uploads unless given a reason—which, the reason would be something like:

    A.) a player joining one of their parties,
    B.) looking to be a member of their static,
    C.) being like some individuals I’ve seen and trying to talk big about themselves so people go looking for evidence to back up their claims,

    Etc..
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    They actually aren’t wrong.
    Let me try to use an anology.

    You try to go get a job. You're usually a decent, hardworking person. Your boss is all set to hire you, but then consults some site on which some random person (intentionally or otherwise) has uploaded images of you drunkenly vomiting all over the place.

    From what you are trying to say, your boss should go by those logs, assume you are like that all the time, and not even bother seeing what you can bring to his team.

    This is where we disagree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarteck View Post
    Let me try to use an anology.

    You try to go get a job. You're usually a decent, hardworking person. Your boss is all set to hire you, but then consults some site on which some random person (intentionally or otherwise) has uploaded images of you drunkenly vomiting all over the place.

    From what you are trying to say, your boss should go by those logs, assume you are like that all the time, and not even bother seeing what you can bring to his team.

    This is where we disagree.
    This already happens with:

    -any social site like facebook
    -background checks of various degrees

    Buisinesses check your competence through references and interviews but they also want to know if your image fits their company. So yeah, a boss who finds you online with...less than savory circumstances may not hire you, before and/or after a personal interview.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarteck View Post
    Let me try to use an anology.

    You try to go get a job. You're usually a decent, hardworking person. Your boss is all set to hire you, but then consults some site on which some random person (intentionally or otherwise) has uploaded images of you drunkenly vomiting all over the place.

    From what you are trying to say, your boss should go by those logs, assume you are like that all the time, and not even bother seeing what you can bring to his team.

    This is where we disagree.
    Actually, companies do use social media, and can base whether or not they hire a person on what is posted on their social media websites. They can also fire people for posting negative things about their companies on social media.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarteck View Post
    Let me try to use an anology.

    You try to go get a job. You're usually a decent, hardworking person. Your boss is all set to hire you, but then consults some site on which some random person (intentionally or otherwise) has uploaded images of you drunkenly vomiting all over the place.

    From what you are trying to say, your boss should go by those logs, assume you are like that all the time, and not even bother seeing what you can bring to his team.

    This is where we disagree.
    This is literally a thing that happens in real life every day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarteck View Post
    Let me try to use an anology.

    You try to go get a job. You're usually a decent, hardworking person. Your boss is all set to hire you, but then consults some site on which some random person (intentionally or otherwise) has uploaded images of you drunkenly vomiting all over the place.

    From what you are trying to say, your boss should go by those logs, assume you are like that all the time, and not even bother seeing what you can bring to his team.

    This is where we disagree.
    This is such a bad anology, because first of all I'm a small leader in one of the biggest firms in my country, so leave alone me wantng a drunk head. Plus we already look for peoples behavior through social media.
    Most big firms do this and someone did get kicked for talking shit about the company in UK too. There was some news about it.
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    Last edited by akaneakki; 11-15-2017 at 11:59 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by akaneakki View Post
    This is such a bad anology, because first of all I'm a small leader in one of the biggest firms in my country, so leave alone me wantng a drunk head. Plus we already look for peoples behavior through social media.
    Most big firms do this and someone did get kicked for talking shit about the company in UK too. There was some news about it.
    "Most big firms will decide not to hire you if there exists a picture of you vomiting, because that means you are a drunk head."

    Yeah... no. But you're displaying quite well why it's a bad idea--you're basing everything about that person on those images, and not how they regularly conduct themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarteck View Post
    [...]
    Come on. Just... stop. You're going to start finding fossils if you dig that hole any deeper.
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